PCGS and Questionable Toning Designation

I know that PCGS has will holder a coin as "Genuine and Not Gradable" for "Questionable Color" (assigning a code value of 91). I am guessing they mean Artificially Toned, though I am not 100% sure of that.

If that's true, how did this coin slide by?

I dont think I have ever seen a better example of "questionable toning".
What am i missing here?

 

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Can we see the reverse, please?

Chris

 

WingedLiberty

Do you own this coin? or is this something you found on eBay maybe? The image overall looks juiced. The saturation level is excessive and is very likely why the color seems so deep/rich/intense. The coin may not look like this in hand and the toning thus not as questionable as you are basing it and PCGS' assessment by this poor quality, probably juiced, image file. Just something to consider.

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How can a coin get to look like that in just five years?

 

Photoshop?

 

Reaction to its environment, and has been mentioned, images which might make the color appear more vivid than it actually is.

 

No I dont own this

Here is the ebay listing ... current bid is up to $255 (crazy)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150493555177&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

(its funny that the seller's name is peacockcoins)

Here is the reverse ...

 

Why wait 5 years when you can buy them off eBay right now!

 

So how exactly does one get a coin to tone like that?

I heard some people say if you chop up a boiled egg and put it in a baggie with the coin
it will tone colorfully (something about sulfur?)

This stuff is crazy to me!

 

ASEs sure tone alot differently from most other silver US coins. if that were anything else you could say it would be screaming AT.

 

In THIS case, the example you have shown, it's a matter of using Photoshop to 'juice' the image file of a coin that already has tone, just not this severely toned. The image file is manipulated.

What you are asking about, how heavy toning is achieved is not the same thing as how does THIS coin look this way. This is digital image manipulation. Visual deception/trickery by a few clicks of the mouse in a graphics editing application.

 

BE SURE TO READ THIS!!! The seller's Toolhaus.org feedback for: peacockcoins

PLENTY of proof of deceptive images and unhappy buyers!

 

How does a seller modify the auction description bar to include "Attractive Level" ???

Item specifics

Geography: United States
Weight: 1 Troy Ounce
Year: 2005
Strike Type: Business
Certification: PCGS
Attractive Level: A solid 10+!

 

GD, how could i duplicate that coloring in 5 years ... i would like to do an experiment with it.

 

You cannot duplicate what you are seeing in this image on the coin, the coin has tone and the image is manipulated further.

 

One thing I have been asking myself for a while is why do ASE's tone so quickly? If you look or research for ASE's on the internet, you will find so many toned but with (IMO) very questionable toning. I have stayed away from these pieces until I learn more about them. Sometimes I think it's in the way the metal is processed before the strike.

Maybe the way the metals are mixed and planchets are made has something to do with it? I mean, If you get a Morgan and a ASE side by side and store them in a wood display box under some strong lighting, the ASE will tone quickly with almost neon purples and stuff while the Morgan looks as if nothing ever happened.

I say this because I have seen it happening in some dealers shop. I asked if they were there for a while and he confirmed that they have been there for a long time.