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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1375330, member: 15309"]There you go blowing smoke again. I don't care when they added it to some meaningless glossary on their website. I have a first edition copy of the PCGS OFFICIAL GUIDE TO COIN GRADING AND COUNTERFEIT DETECTION. This book is essentially a written account of PCGS's grading standards. The book was published in October of 1997. I would like to share with you a passage for grading mint state Walking Liberty Half Dollars:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This one passage blows all of your points out of the water. Roll friction is REAL. The TPG's have known about it and incorporated it in their grading at least as far back as when PCGS used OGH (Old Green Holders). Are you going to dispute that fact that the time period when OGH's were used is accepted as a conservative era in coin grading?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I have already alluded to the reason earlier in this thread. By taking every Walker that exhibits roll friction and grading it AU, you will drastically reduce the overall populations of mint state examples. It is a known fact that these coins were subjected to storgage conditions that lead to high point wear. It is an unfortunate unintended consequence that some coins which actually do have wear from circulation will be graded mint state by mistake. But that is far better than large hordes of AU coins that all appear to be GEM & PREMIUM GEM at first glance.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It isn't blind trust Doug, it is the product of logic and reason. The process of market grading coins uses a holistic method. When you compare an actual AU Walker to one with simple roll friction, it becomes painfully obvious that the coins are not equal and don't deserve to carry the same grade. You are unable to look past your own stubborn beliefs. Roll friction is an accepted cause of high point wear by almost everyone in the numismatic community including people like David Hall & John Albanese. These people have forgotten more about coins and coin grading than you and I have ever known. But you want me to believe that they are just a bunch of sellouts sacrificing their standards at every turn just to make a buck. Sorry, not buying it Doug.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1375330, member: 15309"]There you go blowing smoke again. I don't care when they added it to some meaningless glossary on their website. I have a first edition copy of the PCGS OFFICIAL GUIDE TO COIN GRADING AND COUNTERFEIT DETECTION. This book is essentially a written account of PCGS's grading standards. The book was published in October of 1997. I would like to share with you a passage for grading mint state Walking Liberty Half Dollars: This one passage blows all of your points out of the water. Roll friction is REAL. The TPG's have known about it and incorporated it in their grading at least as far back as when PCGS used OGH (Old Green Holders). Are you going to dispute that fact that the time period when OGH's were used is accepted as a conservative era in coin grading? I have already alluded to the reason earlier in this thread. By taking every Walker that exhibits roll friction and grading it AU, you will drastically reduce the overall populations of mint state examples. It is a known fact that these coins were subjected to storgage conditions that lead to high point wear. It is an unfortunate unintended consequence that some coins which actually do have wear from circulation will be graded mint state by mistake. But that is far better than large hordes of AU coins that all appear to be GEM & PREMIUM GEM at first glance. It isn't blind trust Doug, it is the product of logic and reason. The process of market grading coins uses a holistic method. When you compare an actual AU Walker to one with simple roll friction, it becomes painfully obvious that the coins are not equal and don't deserve to carry the same grade. You are unable to look past your own stubborn beliefs. Roll friction is an accepted cause of high point wear by almost everyone in the numismatic community including people like David Hall & John Albanese. These people have forgotten more about coins and coin grading than you and I have ever known. But you want me to believe that they are just a bunch of sellouts sacrificing their standards at every turn just to make a buck. Sorry, not buying it Doug.[/QUOTE]
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