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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1375164, member: 112"]Paul, roll friction is a term that didn't even exist until about 2 years ago. I can even remember when PCGS added it to their glossary on their web site. I even posted here about it being added. And you don't get friction marks like the ones on that coin from the coin being a roll. That's a bunch of hooey. Yeah, I know - the fabled "market acceptable" factor. Well I'll tell ya. If the "market" has gotten to the point that they are willing to accept wear like that on a coin and then call it MS65 - then the "market" has become a bunch of plastic buyers who put more faith in what it says on the label than they do in the coin itself. No Paul, I do not have to stop substituting my grading standards and start accepting what the TPGs are apparently getting you and others to believe and accept. Putting such blind trust in the TPGs is something that collectors nationwide will eventually come to regret. For what is happening is that the TPGs are substituting what you folks are willing to accept for their own standards. Not my standards. It's time to call them (the TPGs) to task and get them to start grading coins according to their own written standards. I cannot believe that someone with your knowledge would accept such nonsense as this. Just because they (the TPGs) say something - that does not mean that they are right.[/QUOTE]