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<p>[QUOTE="Michael K, post: 2807194, member: 78298"]Yes I have heard about this bounty for a while now. I believe this coin could only be verified in a certain scenario. (Skip to the end.)</p><p>We can all agree that grading is subjective. One grader sees a coin as 64 another as 65 and they both have valid reasons why they assessed it that way.</p><p>Is verification/ authentication also subjective?</p><p>Many coins have been graded as genuine and then they turn out later to be forgeries. Let's say they take the 1964-D compare to die photos and all the scientific testing tools at their disposal and certify it as genuine. Well 5 or 10 years down the road, new data, new information, new photos, new testimony comes to light, and the grading service says: Ooops. We made a mistake. This is a brilliant counterfeit, made from technology that we were unaware of and didn't even know existed at the time. Sorry. And don't say that is impossible because it has happened a number of times in this and other fields. So verification can not be 100% sure.</p><p>The only way would have some documented provenance like if the coin was retrieved from the safe box of the daughter or grandchild of the Denver mint director who embezzled the coin, or if they found a secret safe in the LBJ library and then tested and verified the coin. Those coins would most likely be real. But then it's moot as it is now an illegal coin and subject to confiscation by the US government. In the same way I believe the 5 1913 Liberty Head nickels are illegal coins. They were not produced for circulation, or as proofs for collectors, nor are they mint errors. Those 5 coins are illegal coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Michael K, post: 2807194, member: 78298"]Yes I have heard about this bounty for a while now. I believe this coin could only be verified in a certain scenario. (Skip to the end.) We can all agree that grading is subjective. One grader sees a coin as 64 another as 65 and they both have valid reasons why they assessed it that way. Is verification/ authentication also subjective? Many coins have been graded as genuine and then they turn out later to be forgeries. Let's say they take the 1964-D compare to die photos and all the scientific testing tools at their disposal and certify it as genuine. Well 5 or 10 years down the road, new data, new information, new photos, new testimony comes to light, and the grading service says: Ooops. We made a mistake. This is a brilliant counterfeit, made from technology that we were unaware of and didn't even know existed at the time. Sorry. And don't say that is impossible because it has happened a number of times in this and other fields. So verification can not be 100% sure. The only way would have some documented provenance like if the coin was retrieved from the safe box of the daughter or grandchild of the Denver mint director who embezzled the coin, or if they found a secret safe in the LBJ library and then tested and verified the coin. Those coins would most likely be real. But then it's moot as it is now an illegal coin and subject to confiscation by the US government. In the same way I believe the 5 1913 Liberty Head nickels are illegal coins. They were not produced for circulation, or as proofs for collectors, nor are they mint errors. Those 5 coins are illegal coins.[/QUOTE]
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