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<p>[QUOTE="MVC, post: 341983, member: 5290"]I have a different type of question for those with a legal background. If a seller intentionally sent wrong coins, or knowingly sold dipped coins without disclosure or other Superfluous Grading Scams, and these items were sent through the US mail, does that not constitute mail fraud? Is the “intent to defraud” too hard to prove? Or am I way off base on that?</p><p><br /></p><p>Below is from USPS.com</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Title 18, United States Code</i></p><p><i>Section 1341. Frauds & swindles</i></p><p><i>Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $ 1 million or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both. </i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="MVC, post: 341983, member: 5290"]I have a different type of question for those with a legal background. If a seller intentionally sent wrong coins, or knowingly sold dipped coins without disclosure or other Superfluous Grading Scams, and these items were sent through the US mail, does that not constitute mail fraud? Is the “intent to defraud” too hard to prove? Or am I way off base on that? Below is from USPS.com [I]Title 18, United States Code Section 1341. Frauds & swindles Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $ 1 million or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both. [/I][/QUOTE]
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