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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1046939, member: 19463"]One of the questions that makes the stomach queezy for some of us old time ancient collectors is, "How do I clean my coins so they look bright as new?" Modern collectors handle such questions by a hard and fast rule that you should never clean a coin but all ancients have been cleaned at least to the point of knocking away the several inches of dirt that buried them for the last couple thousand years. </p><p><br /></p><p>Bronze coins sometimes develop a hard green surface coating known as Patina. This is not a microns thin film like the toning on modern coins but a modification and enhancement of the surface that takes centuries to form naturally. There are artificial patinas but they don't look the same certainly don't add to the value of a coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>My latest Falling Horseman of Constantius II has a green patina (not the nicest but not bad either). Last week I showed a completely stripped to metal and retoning coin which I repeat here for comparison. I suspect that several people here will prefer the stripped coin to the green one but they would not like what was left if you removed that green patina and took a lot of the surface with it! Please don't try. You can clean away dirt and soft encrustations but please stop when you get to a hard green layer. </p><p><br /></p><p>The close up image illustrates that natural patinas tend to consist of several shades of green and often even have patches of other colors (red, blue). There are coins with complete patinas in the other colors but green is many times more common. Unfortunately many patinas are a bit thick and can obscure some detail but smoothing them to the point that they look better is an art few possess and a poor job really wrecks the value of the coin and will make many people suspect that the thing is a fake. </p><p><br /></p><p>Which surface do you prefer? I prefer the unpatinated coin but for several reasons having nothing to do with the surface. Green bronzes are pretty; some are really pretty. If you don't care for them, I suggest not buying the coin and leave them for those who do. Your chances of getting something pleasing by removing a patina is very, very slim. </p><p><br /></p><p>Feel free to post coins you feel have pretty patinas.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1046939, member: 19463"]One of the questions that makes the stomach queezy for some of us old time ancient collectors is, "How do I clean my coins so they look bright as new?" Modern collectors handle such questions by a hard and fast rule that you should never clean a coin but all ancients have been cleaned at least to the point of knocking away the several inches of dirt that buried them for the last couple thousand years. Bronze coins sometimes develop a hard green surface coating known as Patina. This is not a microns thin film like the toning on modern coins but a modification and enhancement of the surface that takes centuries to form naturally. There are artificial patinas but they don't look the same certainly don't add to the value of a coin. My latest Falling Horseman of Constantius II has a green patina (not the nicest but not bad either). Last week I showed a completely stripped to metal and retoning coin which I repeat here for comparison. I suspect that several people here will prefer the stripped coin to the green one but they would not like what was left if you removed that green patina and took a lot of the surface with it! Please don't try. You can clean away dirt and soft encrustations but please stop when you get to a hard green layer. The close up image illustrates that natural patinas tend to consist of several shades of green and often even have patches of other colors (red, blue). There are coins with complete patinas in the other colors but green is many times more common. Unfortunately many patinas are a bit thick and can obscure some detail but smoothing them to the point that they look better is an art few possess and a poor job really wrecks the value of the coin and will make many people suspect that the thing is a fake. Which surface do you prefer? I prefer the unpatinated coin but for several reasons having nothing to do with the surface. Green bronzes are pretty; some are really pretty. If you don't care for them, I suggest not buying the coin and leave them for those who do. Your chances of getting something pleasing by removing a patina is very, very slim. Feel free to post coins you feel have pretty patinas.[/QUOTE]
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