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<p>[QUOTE="bart, post: 675930, member: 5580"]These 2 coins are struck in the name of archdukes Albert of Habsburg and Isabella of Spain. Technically the Southern Netherlands were not Spanish during their rule, as king Philip II of Spain handed total sovereignty of the country to his daughter Isabella and her husband Albert and their children. If they died childless the country would come back under Spanish sovereignty, and that's what happened in 1621.</p><p>The mention of TORN means that coin has been struck at the Tournai mint.</p><p>The other one has been struck for the duchy of Brabant (possible mints: Brussels, Antwerp, Maastricht, 's Hertogenbosch). As you only show one side of this coin I cannot make out which mint.</p><p><br /></p><p>By the way: "Albertus et Elisabeth Archiduces Austriae Duces Burgundiae Brabantiae" means Albert and Isabella, archdukes of Austria, dukes of Burgundy and Brabant.</p><p>On the Tournai coin the last title is "Lords of Tournai".</p><p>On a Flanders coin the title "duke of Brabant" would be replaced by "C.FL." "Comes Flandres" or "Counts of Flanders"[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="bart, post: 675930, member: 5580"]These 2 coins are struck in the name of archdukes Albert of Habsburg and Isabella of Spain. Technically the Southern Netherlands were not Spanish during their rule, as king Philip II of Spain handed total sovereignty of the country to his daughter Isabella and her husband Albert and their children. If they died childless the country would come back under Spanish sovereignty, and that's what happened in 1621. The mention of TORN means that coin has been struck at the Tournai mint. The other one has been struck for the duchy of Brabant (possible mints: Brussels, Antwerp, Maastricht, 's Hertogenbosch). As you only show one side of this coin I cannot make out which mint. By the way: "Albertus et Elisabeth Archiduces Austriae Duces Burgundiae Brabantiae" means Albert and Isabella, archdukes of Austria, dukes of Burgundy and Brabant. On the Tournai coin the last title is "Lords of Tournai". On a Flanders coin the title "duke of Brabant" would be replaced by "C.FL." "Comes Flandres" or "Counts of Flanders"[/QUOTE]
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