Paper Money: New Acquisitions

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  1. midas1

    midas1 Exalted Member

    What is a numerical twenty?
     
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  3. techwriter

    techwriter Well-Known Member

    A "numerical" twenty (and others) refers to the NUMBER in the seal on the left hand side of the note. Instead of a LETTER for the Federal Reserve District there is the number of the District. The '8' is St. Louis, later represented with an 'H' in the seal.
     
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    midas1 Exalted Member

  5. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    This error is known as a Faulty Alignment, Major in Fred Bart's latest Paper Money Error Guide. It's a series 2009 $1 New York FRN, serial B74201941J and was printed at the Washington DC facility. Most of these type errors are on notes from the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's. It's unusual for these type of BEP mistakes to make their way into circulation in this day and age. Note was printed in December of 2013.

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  6. Skippy Topaz

    Skippy Topaz PAPERBOY

    Very excited to have this note in my collection... I was initially drawn to the design because I have a kind of OCD thing when it comes to symmetry. I love how the elements are equally balanced and the same size on both the left and right sides with the beauteous vignette in the center. Can't go wrong with maiden's and eagles I always say...

    The first thing that actually caught my eye was the large "IX" and upon closer examination I realized it was a $9 note and when I thought about it, it occurred to me that the last time I saw a $9 note was never.... after recently acquiring the three dollar note I just had to have this one. A $9 bill is just... I love it...

    Add to that the fact that it's dated 1810 is just mind boggling to me... Abraham Lincoln was only a year old when this note was circulating and the country only had its fourth President in office... then I noticed that the serial number was #4...bonus.....

    I guess the realization that this note is over 200 years old is just so very cool to me...

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  7. midas1

    midas1 Exalted Member

    "This error is known as a Faulty Alignment"

    How do these notes make it to the public? If error notes find their way out I wonder what else makes it way to the street.

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  8. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    These notes arrived in the mail today.

    Series 1974 $100 Kansas City Star in XF condition (from a forum member)

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    Series 1934C $10 Minneapolis Star in Fine condition (a gift from my brother Larry)

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  9. gsalexan

    gsalexan Intaglio aficionado

    This is wonderful note! This particular bank seemed to specialize in odd denominations. They also issued $6, $7 and $8 notes. However, I have only seen
    these as unissued remainders -- and I'm pretty sure that's actually what you have here. These notes were printed in the 1830s, because the bank note firm of Casilear, Durand, Barton & Edmonds (imprint at the bottom of the note) only existed from around 1835-39. That would cast suspicion on the penned date, along with the serial number. Also, a cashier would never put a year date alone, there would always be month and day of issue. It's possible the signatures are legit, as these were sometimes signed in bulk and then released over time.
     
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  10. Skippy Topaz

    Skippy Topaz PAPERBOY

    Thanks for that post, very informative (so much to learn!) I'm very curious now about the date considering it appears to be "pre-dated" since it couldn't possibly be from 1810, I guess the question is "why"?

    Looking at the note, it looks like maybe this type of not could have been used like a check? It says "Pay To The Order Of" and then a space to add someone's name as opposed to just saying "Will Pay Bearer"... I hope it doesn't turn out to be a detriment to its value as far as post-print damage etc..

    On your other point, I had actually noticed that the Paterson Bank had every denomination $6, $7, $8, I think they even had a $4 but I liked the $9 design best :)

    Thanks again, gonna have to do some research... this obsolete universe is just full of rabbit holes!
     
  11. gsalexan

    gsalexan Intaglio aficionado

    Lots of rabbit holes indeed! I would guess the reason this was filled in was that issued notes from this bank tend to hold more collector value than remainders, for the simple reason that there are less of them. Some shady seller without knowledge of the genuine issue dates took a guess and hoped no one would be the wiser.
     
  12. BunkerTrapMan

    BunkerTrapMan Overcoming adversity is the key to happiness

    I won my first auction at Lynn Knight.
    This was $50.00 did I do ok?
    I think I was the only bidder. Look at the ink color, I thought it looked different kind of green.
    One of the books I bought Small Size paper Money says the high Serial Number reported so far is B96130975A. As you can see this looks like it came from a uncut sheet? Am I correct in that assumption?
     

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  13. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    Nice note, but not from a sheet.
    This note may be a MULE. Check the BP number, and if it 585 or higher, it is a mule. The highest recorded serial for a series 1934 $10 Mule is one serial number higher than yours....B99975334A.
     
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  14. BunkerTrapMan

    BunkerTrapMan Overcoming adversity is the key to happiness

    Do you mind me asking just how in the World you knew that?
     
  15. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    I have several editions of the Standard Guide to Small-Size U.S.Paper Money 1928 to Date (9th and 10th editions). It has all kinds of valuable information.
     
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  16. BunkerTrapMan

    BunkerTrapMan Overcoming adversity is the key to happiness

    Thanks!
    That made me look again at the book. I have edition 10
    it was simply on the next page.
    So now I ask what the heck is a Mule?
     
  17. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    The short answer is; The front of a note is printed on current series plates, while the back of the note is printed with previous series plates. A more detailed explanation can be found in the users guide in the front of your book. I highly recommend reading the users guide before using the book. It has all kinds of useful information.
     
  18. mikep

    mikep Active Member

    got a couple of new things today
     

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  19. mikep

    mikep Active Member

    also got these errors
     

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  20. techwriter

    techwriter Well-Known Member

    This little thing came in the mail today; nice radar note:
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  21. Facevalue

    Facevalue Active Member

    Picked up a couple nice circulation finds today...man do I ever despise wheres George stampers! They ruin bills! Nice to find the '76 J star in AU condition
     

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