Pagan coin of The Great Persecution

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  1. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

    I was amazed by the quality of die engraving on such a small coin. Doug, it sounds like robe pattern may be an interesting variation to watch out for.
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  3. David@PCC

    David@PCC Well-Known Member

    Jb's and mine came from the same seller which had an impressive selection from this mint.

    Your robe is more intricate and not as common and it is found on several workshops.
  4. Sulla80

    Sulla80 one coin at a time Supporter

    Mine also from the workshop of death! (explanation here Ε+Δ=Θ)
    persecution issue.jpg
    Maximinus II AD 310-313 Antioch
    Follis AE, "Persecution issue"
    Obv: IOVI CONS-ERVATORI; Jupiter enthroned left, holding globe in right and scepter in left hand
    Rev: VICTOR-IA AVGG; Victory advancing left, holding wreath in right hand and palm frond in left; Δ in left field, Є right field; ANT in exergue.
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  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    I added another to my collection from today's Ares auction.

    Anonymous quarter follis under Maximinus Antioch Apollo.jpg
    Anonymous issue under Maximinus II.
    Roman billon quarter follis, 1.35 g, 16.3 mm, 11 h.
    Antioch, officina 10, AD 311-312.
    Obv: GENIO ANTIOCHENI, Tyche of Antioch seated facing; river god Orontes swimming below.
    Rev: APOLLONI SANCTO, Apollo standing left holding patera and lyre; S in right field, SMA in ex.
    Refs: RCV 14927; Vagi 2954; Van Heesch 3(a); McAlee 170f.
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2019
  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    I am not sure why anyone even cites Mcalee except for copy and paste or reference overload. This is the book The Coins of Roman Antioch. If you don’t have it yet, don’t bother getting it because you think it might have some information on these coins, it seems to include the pagan civic coins as an afterthought and then only a few examples-- I have included a scan of the entire section below.

    McAlee pg106.jpg
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  7. David@PCC

    David@PCC Well-Known Member

    I use it (172a) for the one I posted on the previous page because his is the only reference that mentions it. Before finding the supplement, I thought it was unpublished.
  8. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    I had not looked at the supplement, which I just looked up. It references a prior coin sold by CGB, which can be as easily referenced as an online supplement. Lech also has a page for it--
  9. David@PCC

    David@PCC Well-Known Member

    That exact coin is on other sites as well. I used McAlee because I think more people are familiar the book, not saying which is better and links can go stale. I would be flattered if others used my page on these as a reference. Books are neccessary, but quickly become out of date.
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I see the posts above refer to these as 1/4 follis and 1/12 nummus. I have never been comfortable with them having any denomination label. Comments?
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