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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 1835938, member: 57463"]I have to disagree. You need to define "counterfeit." </p><p><br /></p><p>It is true that contemporary counterfeits get a blind eye from the law. The letter of the law would contravene the spirit of the law. Contemporary pennies and half pennies from colonial America, ancient copies of Athenian owls (both in good silver and plated forgeries), and similar items do not usually concern law enforcement. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have a coffee cup coaster 3-1/2 inches in diameter in the likeness of an Indianhead Cent. No one cares.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Henning Nickels are a different problem, as are the 1912 Liberty Nickels, and the 1804 Dollars. They are contraband under the law and can be seized without a warrant. It will never happen. Rich people are allowed to get away with some economic crimes. It is a fact of life in a capitalist society (or any society) - and no one here is more libertarian than I am. Nonetheless, the sociology of crime remains a constant. </p><p><br /></p><p>If I were in charge of the Secret Service, I would seize them. But that is why I am not in charge of the Secret Service - or much of anything else. Common sense tends to rule. (And it was common sense that Baron von Nothaus's "Liberty Dollars" would not be allowed to continue. But that is another story.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Ultimately, there is the problem of the criminal production and sale of counterfeit US currency. About 2000 or so, businesses along the East Coast were hit by a large volume of counterfeit US Quarter Dollars. We have had new designs for FRNs since then, also, because of the huge influx of counterfeits. The US government brought pressure on China, and three men were executed for making counterfeit US currency.</p><p><br /></p><p>Selling a collectible counterfeits for more than their face value does not open the door to larceny. Selling them for less than face value does. But contraband cannot be legally owned. You can never have title to it. Period.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 1835938, member: 57463"]I have to disagree. You need to define "counterfeit." It is true that contemporary counterfeits get a blind eye from the law. The letter of the law would contravene the spirit of the law. Contemporary pennies and half pennies from colonial America, ancient copies of Athenian owls (both in good silver and plated forgeries), and similar items do not usually concern law enforcement. I have a coffee cup coaster 3-1/2 inches in diameter in the likeness of an Indianhead Cent. No one cares. The Henning Nickels are a different problem, as are the 1912 Liberty Nickels, and the 1804 Dollars. They are contraband under the law and can be seized without a warrant. It will never happen. Rich people are allowed to get away with some economic crimes. It is a fact of life in a capitalist society (or any society) - and no one here is more libertarian than I am. Nonetheless, the sociology of crime remains a constant. If I were in charge of the Secret Service, I would seize them. But that is why I am not in charge of the Secret Service - or much of anything else. Common sense tends to rule. (And it was common sense that Baron von Nothaus's "Liberty Dollars" would not be allowed to continue. But that is another story.) Ultimately, there is the problem of the criminal production and sale of counterfeit US currency. About 2000 or so, businesses along the East Coast were hit by a large volume of counterfeit US Quarter Dollars. We have had new designs for FRNs since then, also, because of the huge influx of counterfeits. The US government brought pressure on China, and three men were executed for making counterfeit US currency. Selling a collectible counterfeits for more than their face value does not open the door to larceny. Selling them for less than face value does. But contraband cannot be legally owned. You can never have title to it. Period.[/QUOTE]
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