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<p>[QUOTE="rrdenarius, post: 2406938, member: 75525"]An interesting coin arrived today. From Kunker's web page, I could see what looked like an over-strike. In hand I am not sure what I have. It could be an over-strike from an earlier issue or a double strike of this coin. From the picture, I thought it might be a die clash, but I do not see it that way in hand. Look at the pics and let me know what you think.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]496811[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]496812[/ATTACH] </p><p>I can not tell what I see from 9 to 12 on the edge of the obverse. There is an arc of impressions in the face also. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]496813[/ATTACH] </p><p>There is definitely a second row of border dots from 1 - 2. The lighter features at 4 are higher than the darker spots. Could this be from the tips of the helmet wings? Parts of the reverse have unusual step changes in height of the features (chest of left rider). It looks a bit like it could be a flip over double strike.</p><p><br /></p><p>Roman Republican Denarius</p><p>Mint Rome Crawford says Rome; Grueber says Central Italy; Sydenham says Rome and other</p><p>Issued by C.PLVTI, Caius Plutius, moneyer</p><p>Mint Date 121 BC</p><p>Weight 3.92, mine</p><p>I found lots more than 38 examples, but stopped writing and averaged the numbers. </p><p>Weight - max 3.94 grams</p><p>Weight - min 3.24</p><p>Weight - avg 3.82</p><p>Weight - st dev 0.130</p><p>Number 38</p><p>Diameter - max 19.2 mm</p><p>Diameter - min 18.3</p><p>Diameter - max 19.9</p><p>Diameter - min 17.0</p><p>Diameter - avg 18.1</p><p>Diameter - st dev 0.72</p><p>Metal AR</p><p>Serrated N</p><p>Cr 278 / 1</p><p>BMCRR Itly 454 - 460</p><p>Sear: #, VF, EF 153</p><p>Bab Plutia 1</p><p>CRR 410 / 414 based on helmet style</p><p>CRI</p><p>NMWar 451 451 - 455</p><p>NMCr</p><p>Orientation 11</p><p>Orientation</p><p>Purchased from <img src="https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/Gene/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image005.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Kunker</p><p>Purchase date 4/5/2016</p><p>Price </p><p>Currency Euro</p><p>Excahange rate</p><p>Grade gVF</p><p>Grade VF</p><p>Centering well centered</p><p>Strike good strike, over another coin? Flip-over double strike?</p><p>Flan flaws double strike</p><p>Style Sydenham says that those with helmet style E3 and other characteristics of the mint in Rome are rare -> #410. He says #414 has helmet style F1. </p><p>Patination light toning</p><p>Damage none</p><p>Obverse Roma</p><p>Reverse Dioscuri</p><p>Obverse Helmeted head of Roma R, behind X</p><p>Reverse Dioscuri dharging R, holding spears, below C.PLUTI, on partial tablet ROMA. Crawford notes the late use of this form of L.</p><p>Obverse dies 120</p><p>Reverse dies 150</p><p><br /></p><p>Sydenham calls some of these from Rome based on helmet style.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]496814[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="rrdenarius, post: 2406938, member: 75525"]An interesting coin arrived today. From Kunker's web page, I could see what looked like an over-strike. In hand I am not sure what I have. It could be an over-strike from an earlier issue or a double strike of this coin. From the picture, I thought it might be a die clash, but I do not see it that way in hand. Look at the pics and let me know what you think. [ATTACH=full]496811[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]496812[/ATTACH] I can not tell what I see from 9 to 12 on the edge of the obverse. There is an arc of impressions in the face also. [ATTACH=full]496813[/ATTACH] There is definitely a second row of border dots from 1 - 2. The lighter features at 4 are higher than the darker spots. Could this be from the tips of the helmet wings? Parts of the reverse have unusual step changes in height of the features (chest of left rider). It looks a bit like it could be a flip over double strike. Roman Republican Denarius Mint Rome Crawford says Rome; Grueber says Central Italy; Sydenham says Rome and other Issued by C.PLVTI, Caius Plutius, moneyer Mint Date 121 BC Weight 3.92, mine I found lots more than 38 examples, but stopped writing and averaged the numbers. Weight - max 3.94 grams Weight - min 3.24 Weight - avg 3.82 Weight - st dev 0.130 Number 38 Diameter - max 19.2 mm Diameter - min 18.3 Diameter - max 19.9 Diameter - min 17.0 Diameter - avg 18.1 Diameter - st dev 0.72 Metal AR Serrated N Cr 278 / 1 BMCRR Itly 454 - 460 Sear: #, VF, EF 153 Bab Plutia 1 CRR 410 / 414 based on helmet style CRI NMWar 451 451 - 455 NMCr Orientation 11 Orientation Purchased from [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/file:///C:/Users/Gene/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image005.png[/IMG] Kunker Purchase date 4/5/2016 Price Currency Euro Excahange rate Grade gVF Grade VF Centering well centered Strike good strike, over another coin? Flip-over double strike? Flan flaws double strike Style Sydenham says that those with helmet style E3 and other characteristics of the mint in Rome are rare -> #410. He says #414 has helmet style F1. Patination light toning Damage none Obverse Roma Reverse Dioscuri Obverse Helmeted head of Roma R, behind X Reverse Dioscuri dharging R, holding spears, below C.PLUTI, on partial tablet ROMA. Crawford notes the late use of this form of L. Obverse dies 120 Reverse dies 150 Sydenham calls some of these from Rome based on helmet style. [ATTACH=full]496814[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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