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<p>[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 89920, member: 3011"]I would have to say I have a mind that is completely open to new ideas. I didn't always have a lot of knowledge about this subject, but I was willing to investigate. In political debates, I can debate the liberal and conservative philosophies with about equal skill, just for the fun of it, even though I have a personal preference. </p><p><br /></p><p>You indicate I favor a gold standard. This isn't the intent of my posts. The intent was to defend an alternative economic system that works perfectly well, but is currently out of favor. What I object to are the opinions that hard money systems don't work, when it is so obvious to anyone who studies the matter that they do. For some psycological reason, a lot of people can't be content with the idea that we have chosen one system unless they can completely discredit every possible alternative, regardless of intrinsic merit or historical success. I'll leave it to others to explain why that is.</p><p><br /></p><p>You mentioned some problems with trade while being on a gold or silver standard. The Greenspan article addressed this point. I would only add that this isn't a problem with the coinage as much as with technology. The exact same problems would exist today exchanging dollars for yen and the dozens of other international currencies if it were attempted without computerized trading systems and efficient currency markets. If gold and silver coinage were in use today, the same technological solutions would be applied to them that is applied to their modern paper equivalents. People tend not to think of this. Things aren't better today because the money is better. They are better because the markets and the technological underpinnings are better.</p><p><br /></p><p>But the main tipoff of the closed mine [for me] is someone's insistance that hard money systems didn't work, don't work, can't possibly work; but completely unbacked money systems always will because of some imagined inherent advanatage. Trade as a percentage of world GDP was higher prior to World War I than at any time up until about the early or mid 90s. You can look it up. With no computers and no derivatives, pretty complex clearing systems were operated out of London that permitted a high and sophisticated level of world trade with very little actual movement of bullion between nations. The only requirement was a settlement in ounces instead of paper. Now it would be with bits and bytes. The open and flexible mind has to mentally project what today's advances in technology and finance could add to the older processes. </p><p><br /></p><p>However, I completely agree with your comments on stubborness. People today believe that the way things are is the only way they could possibly be without some sort of cataclysmic breakdown -- mostly due to that stubborness. The real truth is that there are usually multiple solutions to any problem, including that of currencies and trade.</p><p><br /></p><p>So I can function in our current fiat currency system with complete comfort and full knowledge of its strengths and weaknesses. I also feel that as a result of my research, I'd be equally comfortable under a hard currency system provided the same laws and protection of personal freedom was in place. I consider having a working knowledge of multiple systems to be an advantage, and also a sign of an open mind.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 89920, member: 3011"]I would have to say I have a mind that is completely open to new ideas. I didn't always have a lot of knowledge about this subject, but I was willing to investigate. In political debates, I can debate the liberal and conservative philosophies with about equal skill, just for the fun of it, even though I have a personal preference. You indicate I favor a gold standard. This isn't the intent of my posts. The intent was to defend an alternative economic system that works perfectly well, but is currently out of favor. What I object to are the opinions that hard money systems don't work, when it is so obvious to anyone who studies the matter that they do. For some psycological reason, a lot of people can't be content with the idea that we have chosen one system unless they can completely discredit every possible alternative, regardless of intrinsic merit or historical success. I'll leave it to others to explain why that is. You mentioned some problems with trade while being on a gold or silver standard. The Greenspan article addressed this point. I would only add that this isn't a problem with the coinage as much as with technology. The exact same problems would exist today exchanging dollars for yen and the dozens of other international currencies if it were attempted without computerized trading systems and efficient currency markets. If gold and silver coinage were in use today, the same technological solutions would be applied to them that is applied to their modern paper equivalents. People tend not to think of this. Things aren't better today because the money is better. They are better because the markets and the technological underpinnings are better. But the main tipoff of the closed mine [for me] is someone's insistance that hard money systems didn't work, don't work, can't possibly work; but completely unbacked money systems always will because of some imagined inherent advanatage. Trade as a percentage of world GDP was higher prior to World War I than at any time up until about the early or mid 90s. You can look it up. With no computers and no derivatives, pretty complex clearing systems were operated out of London that permitted a high and sophisticated level of world trade with very little actual movement of bullion between nations. The only requirement was a settlement in ounces instead of paper. Now it would be with bits and bytes. The open and flexible mind has to mentally project what today's advances in technology and finance could add to the older processes. However, I completely agree with your comments on stubborness. People today believe that the way things are is the only way they could possibly be without some sort of cataclysmic breakdown -- mostly due to that stubborness. The real truth is that there are usually multiple solutions to any problem, including that of currencies and trade. So I can function in our current fiat currency system with complete comfort and full knowledge of its strengths and weaknesses. I also feel that as a result of my research, I'd be equally comfortable under a hard currency system provided the same laws and protection of personal freedom was in place. I consider having a working knowledge of multiple systems to be an advantage, and also a sign of an open mind.[/QUOTE]
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