Out of the ashes: Philip V and Perseus! The second greatest Philip and Perseus from ancient Greece

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  1. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    The Diadochi had splintered Alexander the great's empire 10 ways from Tuesday by the time Philip V

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    exploded onto the scene with his daring exploits that resurrected Macedon like a Phoenix from the ashes!

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    Followed by his less successful but no less daring son, Perseus, the father son duo would lead Macedon back to the heights it hadn't seen since Philip II all the way to the lowest of lows, an all out Roman partition of lands and then takeover. Perseus is considered the last king of Macedon... at least for a couple thousand years until another king would take over the realm.

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    Handsome and fit Philip V cut a dashing figure. Nicknamed beloved of the Hellenes, for all he'd given to the Macedonian people (through cunning, piracy aaand diplomacy) Philip V is someone that dared to be great.
    Which is why I was so pleased to get this beauty (who kinda looks like she's emerged from the ashes herself)

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    Kings of Macedon. Pella, District Bottiaia. Time of Philip V - Perseus 187-168 BC.
    Bronze Æ
    24 mm., 9,63 g.
    very fine

    It was his cousin, Antigonus Doson, that was regent to Philip V until the young man came of age.
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    Antigonos II Gonatas/Antigonus III Doson
    Æ (13mm, 1.8 g,1/2 unit). Uncertain Macedonian mint. Macedonian shield with monogram of Antigonos in central boss / Macedonian helmet sans bushel flanked by grain ears ; kerykeion to left, green patina.
    Possibly singular for the type

    And despite all the wars and lives lost ultimately it was Perseus who history looks back on as the one to lose it all
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    Perseus
    (179-168 BC).Bronze. Pella or Amphipolis.Vs: Head of Perseus with Phrygian helmet and Harpa over the shoulder right.Rs: B-A. Eagle on lightning bundles standing to the left, head turned right; In the field left monogram, in the section Sigma. 19 mm. 6.01 g.HGC 3, 1099. rare.

    Here's a few MSCs of theirs from my collection:
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    So please help me celebrate their legacy by posting your Macedonian coins, Roman takeover of macedon coins or whatever raises your Phoenix from the ashes:hilarious:
     
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  3. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...ah, good 2 C u Ryro....on this special occasion, i will post a coin of King Perseus 179-178BC..:)..(that i just took..again:D..1st pic shaky)..from what i remember about him, he was basically a prisoner of the Romans, wasn't he?!...although they said he was a 'guest'..kinda like 'liberation' & conquering eh?!:rolleyes: perseus 002.JPG perseus 005.JPG
     
  4. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    Wow ! Cool poster !
     
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice group, @Ryro !

    MAKEDON

    PERSEUS

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    Makedon Perseus 178-168 BCE AE 23 Poseidon Club


    PHILIP V
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    Makedon Amphipolis Philip V - Perseus - lost empire to Romans - helmet
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    No Gonatas...
     
  7. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    If you like that, you really need to go to burger king!
     
  8. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    Great coins @Ryro! I really enjoy your shield coin collection!

    I should get more coins of the Macedonian kings, I have too few.
    Here a coin minted by Perseus to pay Cretan mercenaries:
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    Kings of Macedon. temp. Perseus. 179-168 BC. AR Drachm. Third Macedonian War issue. Magistrate Hermias, Uncertain mint in Thessaly (Struck circa 171/0 B.C).
    Obverse:
    Head of Helios facing slightly right.
    Reverse: Rose with bud to right; EPMIAΣ above, Z-Ω flanking stem.
    Reference: Price, Larissa, pl. LV, 247; SNG Keckman 795.
    2.67g; 17mm
     
  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Excellent coin to add to the thread!
    His story had lots of ebbs and flows but ultimately is a sad one.
    Man, I had to search for a loooooong time to get a nice harpa reverse (now I've a few:troll:). His namesake's weapon of choice:
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  10. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    An absolute show stopper right there, my man. VERY envious :troll::troll::troll: of that late hellenistic masterpiece:artist:
    Complimentary, my tet from the period comes from a different branch of the Diadochi
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    MACEDONIAN KINGDOM. Alexander III the Great (336-323 BC). AR tetradrachm (15.98 gm). About VF, countermark, graffito. Late posthumous issue of Perga, dated CY 27 (195/4 BC). Heracles wearing lion-skin, AΛEΞANΔPOY, Zeus seated left on backless throne, right leg drawn back, feet on ground line, eagle in right hand, scepter in left; KI in left field, Seleucid anchor countermark in rectangle in outer right field. Price 2941.
     
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  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...so that's what that is on the obverse behind his head on me coin...kool!m:)
     
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  12. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..ahaha...i think he might've been talking bout the utter 1 ><(or do you get those at BK too??:p)
     
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  13. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Philip V Ar stater 197-179 BC Obv Head right diademed Rv. Club within oak wreath HGC 1059 8.37 grms 22 mm philipV-3.JPG
     
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  14. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I have a Perseus around here somewhere ...

    I didn't get it because of the Macedonian shield, though. I bought it because it's got a cool harpa on the reverse:

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    Perseus, 179-168 BC
    Greek AE 14.8 mm; 2.77 g
    Macedonia
    Obv: Macedonian shield; wheel-ornament in center.
    Rev: ΒΑ-ΠΕ above and below harpa, star below.
    Refs: Sear Greek 6809; Historia Numorum, p. 235; SNG Cop 1281; Lindgren II (Europe) 1339; Gaebler 12.5.36.
     
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  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice coins @Ryro and thanks for the interesting thread.
     
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  16. RS Buffington

    RS Buffington New Member

    This thread just caused me to join... As I’m looking for Macedonians in my disorganized hoard of coins, my wife is starting to give me those looks that indicate I should be heading for my cave with this venture.
     
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  17. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Welcome to the wonderful world of ancients!!!
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    Show some pics so we can help!
    I'm pretty good with Macedonian coins and we have some guys who have forgotten more about ancients then we'll ever know, that may very well chime in!
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  18. RS Buffington

    RS Buffington New Member

    You would know that the first Macedonian coin I’d find in my case would be a barbarous counterfeit. Max dia 26mm, wt. 16.5gm 9B4C1272-DBFB-4FF0-B537-FB8F6D9FA8ED.jpeg
     
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I knew nothing of this period before I bought this coin from @AncientJoe. @kazuma78 owns it now. It was one of my favorites during its tenure in my Eclectic Box collection.

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