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<p>[QUOTE="1934 Wreath Crown, post: 3061884, member: 76965"]On a more serious note, the issue I think, is not how many of a particular coin were minted, heck the Chinese are still producing them<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, but rather, how many genuine coins of a particular style/year/die have so far been unearthed/uncovered and graded as authentic.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes I'm aware that even the grading experts can occasionally get in wrong, that European collectors/auction houses still largely sell raw coins and that purist will not dream of putting a coin in a coffin but then guys like me, who don't know enough about ancients, prefer something that has already been verified. I've bought very authentic looking coins from ROMA which turned out to be fake and had to be returned.....so who can one trust. Imagine if I hadn't sent them for grading, I'd still be happily including them among the pride of my collection. That is why I never buy raw ancients on eBay!!!</p><p><br /></p><p>New finds can affect the value and exclusivity of ancients but that's applicable to all coins even some very rare moderns found in the wreck of a WW1 or WW2 ship or an outlaw hoard. That's a risk we all take. And if there are 3-4000 Otho denarii or 80-100 EID MARs or 50 Antony and Cleo denarii etc. etc., I'm sure there are many tens of thousands of collectors who would still pay big bucks to own one of them in their collection. I know I would, if I could afford two of the three above<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm sure the TPGs must have records of the ancients they graded over the past years/decades, if they somehow found the resources and tabulated these, surely that information would be a great help to the likes of Jyrki Muona and even laymen like me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="1934 Wreath Crown, post: 3061884, member: 76965"]On a more serious note, the issue I think, is not how many of a particular coin were minted, heck the Chinese are still producing them:D, but rather, how many genuine coins of a particular style/year/die have so far been unearthed/uncovered and graded as authentic. Yes I'm aware that even the grading experts can occasionally get in wrong, that European collectors/auction houses still largely sell raw coins and that purist will not dream of putting a coin in a coffin but then guys like me, who don't know enough about ancients, prefer something that has already been verified. I've bought very authentic looking coins from ROMA which turned out to be fake and had to be returned.....so who can one trust. Imagine if I hadn't sent them for grading, I'd still be happily including them among the pride of my collection. That is why I never buy raw ancients on eBay!!! New finds can affect the value and exclusivity of ancients but that's applicable to all coins even some very rare moderns found in the wreck of a WW1 or WW2 ship or an outlaw hoard. That's a risk we all take. And if there are 3-4000 Otho denarii or 80-100 EID MARs or 50 Antony and Cleo denarii etc. etc., I'm sure there are many tens of thousands of collectors who would still pay big bucks to own one of them in their collection. I know I would, if I could afford two of the three above;). I'm sure the TPGs must have records of the ancients they graded over the past years/decades, if they somehow found the resources and tabulated these, surely that information would be a great help to the likes of Jyrki Muona and even laymen like me.[/QUOTE]
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