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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ryro, post: 7699911, member: 91461&quot;]Sometimes losers win and winners lose.</p><p>Case in point, both the first of the <i>awful</i> Ptolemies beats up a <i>pretty good </i>descendant of Seleukos and then the Romans put and end to Antigonid, as well as Macedonian, rule in Macedon on the same day that you and I are living, breathing, drinking and farting in some 2238 and 2189 years later!</p><p><br /></p><p>This &quot;father loving&quot; turd:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1321596[/ATTACH]</p><p>Ptolemy IV Philopator</p><p>&nbsp;222-205/4 BCE</p><p>Æ (11.5mm, 1.39 g, 12h). Uncertain mint on Cyprus. Diademed head of female (Aphrodite/Arsinoe III or Cleopatra VII?) right / Filleted cornucopia. Svoronos 1161; SNG Copenhagen 649. VF</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Beats this Rockstar:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1321579[/ATTACH]</p><p>Antiochos III Megas</p><p>Seleukid Kingdom. Uncertain (military) mint 60. 223-187 BC. Struck 202-187 BC Bronze Æ 17mm., 4,60g. Macedonian shield with gorgoneion in central boss / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑNΤΙΟΧΟΥ, elephant walking right, anchor above, monogram of ΠΑ below. very fine SC 1089.3a; HGC 9, 490</p><p>Former: Savoca</p><p><br /></p><p>Here and in this fashion:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1321599[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And then 49 years later this great great grandson of Antigonus Monophthalmus:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1321582[/ATTACH]</p><p>ThessalianLeague, Thessaly,Greece,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; c. 170 B.C. GB84862. Bronze chalkous, Warren, &quot;Two Notes,&quot; NC 1961, pl. I, 11; BCD Thessaly II 24.2; HGC 4 236; Rogers 4 var., VF, dark green patina, cleaning scratches, earthen deposits, Demetrias(?) mint, weight 2.535g, maximum diameter 14.7mm, c. 170 B.C.; obverse Macedonian shield with star in central boss; reverse kestrosphendone (dart sling) with dart inside, ΘEΣΣA/ΛΩN divided in two lines, the first above, ending below; ex John Jencek;</p><p>The object on the reverse was long considered somewhat mysterious. Roger identified it as a lyre. Robinson suggested a diadem or more probably a sling. Warren argued it is a stylized depiction of a dart sling, or Kestrosphendone, a weapon first introduced during the Third Macedonian War between Rome and Perseus of Macedon. Warren suggests this type was struck at Demetrias, under orders from Perseus, to commemorate the success of the weapon.</p><p><br /></p><p>At this abominable site:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1321585[/ATTACH]</p><p>losses it all to a bunch of farmers with no style, art, religion nor sense of humor of their own. Who then split Macedon into 4 Meris... that&#039;s right, here&#039;s my new fourth Meris (I thought about naming the thread &quot;Meris Buehler&#039;s day off&quot;):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1321584[/ATTACH]</p><p>MACEDON (Roman Protectorate), Republican period. Fourth Meris. Circa 167-149 BC. Æ (25mm, 10.18 g, 12h). Heraclea Lynci mint. Head of Zeus right, wearing laurel wreath / Club; monogram and MAKΔONΩN above, TETAPTHΣ and monogram below; all within oak wreath; thunderbolt to left. MacKay pl. III, 12; Touratsoglou pl. VII, 26; AMNG III/1, 188; SNG Copenhagen 1316; Weber 3709. VF, brown patina. Extremely rare.</p><p>&quot;After the defeat of Perseus at the battle of Pydna in 168 BC, the Romans divided Macedonia into four separate autonomous administrative regions (merides). The first region (ΠPΩTEΣ) lay east of the Strymon with its capital at Amphipolis, the second (ΔEYTEPAΣ) between the Strymon and Axios with its capital at Thessalonica, the third between the Axios and Peneos with its capital at Pella, and the fourth (TETAPTHΣ) included most of Upper Macedonia with its capital at Heraclea Lynci. These four regions only lasted until 148 BC when the country was finally united to constitute a Roman Province and proceeded to issue coins under the authority of its legatus pro praetore.</p><p>Livy informs us that initially all commerce between the regions, exploitation of the silver and gold mines and the importation of salt were forbidden. Almost all the coinage of this period is struck in the name of the first region and runs parallel to the mass coinages of Thasos and Maroneia from about 158 BC. The first region was the most prolific in its coin issues, striking huge issues of tetradrachms and bronze. The second region had only two issues of tetradrachms and the fourth had only two issues of bronzes. Coins from these two regions are very rare today. No coinage is known from the third region.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]E30XxSYgmqo[/MEDIA]</p><p><br /></p><p>Please post any coins relevant<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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