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<p>[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 3736274, member: 91461"]One of the greatest generals in Roman history, many say greatest general until Caesar came along (though Marius will always be my fav) Pompey the great, killed on the orders of a boy Pharaoh, in front of his family, while seeking asylum in Egypt.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1001832[/ATTACH]</p><p>Of course everyone knows the story of Julius crying looking at his ex son in law/rival/triumvir's head. After the hard fought battles between Pompey and Caesar could Julius have let "the great one" live?</p><p>With Caesar's history of forgiveness I believe he was planning on keeping the wanna be Alexander the great around.</p><p>But how different would Roman history be if Pompey had lived and gone back to Rome with JC?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1002579[/ATTACH] </p><p>(Caesar contemplating the head of Pompey)</p><p><br /></p><p>My other question is around the "indecisiveness" Pompey exhibited in his war with Caesar. This wasn't Pompey's first rodeo. He had been leading armies to spectacular victories for years. And what, due to him growing long in the tooth doing lots of baby making with Caesar's daughter (whom died in child birth), he can't decide what direction his larger army should take in a pinch? When Pompey was defeated at the the battle of Pharsalus in 48 BC it paved the way for another all time great Caesar quote, "My enemies would have won today if they were not led by a loser." Ouch! Burn.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1001886[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>For a bit more on the man here is a snip it from wiki on his rise:</p><p><b>Gnaeus Pompey Magnus (Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus)</b><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-2" rel="nofollow">[2]</a> (Classical Latin: <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Latin" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Latin" rel="nofollow">[ˈgnae̯.ʊs pɔmˈpɛj.jʊs ˈmaŋ.nʊs]</a>; 29 September 106 BC – 28 September 48 BC),<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-Brit-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-Brit-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a> usually known in English as <b>Pompey</b> <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English" rel="nofollow">/ˈpɒmpiː/</a> or <b>Pompey the Great</b>,<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-3" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-3" rel="nofollow">[3]</a>was a military and political leader of the late <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Republic" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Republic" rel="nofollow">Roman Republic</a>. He came from a wealthy <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picenum" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picenum" rel="nofollow">Italian provincial</a> background, and his father had been the first to establish the family among the <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobiles" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobiles" rel="nofollow">Roman nobility</a>. Pompey's immense success as a general while still very young enabled him to advance directly to his first <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_consul" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_consul" rel="nofollow">consulship</a> without meeting the normal <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum" rel="nofollow">requirements for office</a>. His success as a military commander in <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulla%27s_second_civil_war" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulla%27s_second_civil_war" rel="nofollow">Sulla's second civil war</a>resulted in Sulla bestowing the <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognomen" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognomen" rel="nofollow">cognomen</a><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus" rel="nofollow">Magnus</a>, "the Great", upon him. His Roman adversaries insulted him as adulescentulus carnifex, "the teenage butcher", after his Sicilian campaign.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-4" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-4" rel="nofollow">[4]</a> He was consul three times (twice with <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crassus" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crassus" rel="nofollow">Crassus</a> and once a consul without a partner) and celebrated three <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_triumph" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_triumph" rel="nofollow">triumphs</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Pompey facing left his son Sextus (the man was clearly sex obsessed<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />) facing right, this Janiform is my first and only, so far, featuring the likes of the great man</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1001834[/ATTACH]</p><p>Sextus Pompey</p><p>Ӕ As. Spain or Sicily, 45 BC. Laureate head of Janus, with the features of Cn. Pompeius Magnus; [MGN] above / Prow right; [PIVS] above, IMP below. Crawford 479/1; CPP I 671. 19.23g, 28mm,</p><p><br /></p><p>Fine.</p><p>Ex-Savoca</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1001833[/ATTACH]</p><p>Julius Caesar</p><p>P. Sepullius Macer - Venus Denarius,lifetime issue Feb-March 44 BC. Moneyer P. Sepullius Macer. Obv: CAESAR DICT PERPETVO legend with laureate and veiled head of Gaius Julius Caesar right. Rev: P SEPVLLIVS MACER legend with Venus standing left, holding Victory in right hand, and sceptre set on shield in left. 20mm, 3.18 grams. Crawford 480/13; Sydenham 1074; RSC 39; Sear 1414. Fine. Scarce. Ex-Savoca</p><p><br /></p><p>Please post coins and stories to help me celebrate the life of a man who did so much so young that if he didn't lose to Caesar he might've been stabbed to death in the forum underneath a statue of Julius Caesar![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 3736274, member: 91461"]One of the greatest generals in Roman history, many say greatest general until Caesar came along (though Marius will always be my fav) Pompey the great, killed on the orders of a boy Pharaoh, in front of his family, while seeking asylum in Egypt. [ATTACH=full]1001832[/ATTACH] Of course everyone knows the story of Julius crying looking at his ex son in law/rival/triumvir's head. After the hard fought battles between Pompey and Caesar could Julius have let "the great one" live? With Caesar's history of forgiveness I believe he was planning on keeping the wanna be Alexander the great around. But how different would Roman history be if Pompey had lived and gone back to Rome with JC? [ATTACH=full]1002579[/ATTACH] (Caesar contemplating the head of Pompey) My other question is around the "indecisiveness" Pompey exhibited in his war with Caesar. This wasn't Pompey's first rodeo. He had been leading armies to spectacular victories for years. And what, due to him growing long in the tooth doing lots of baby making with Caesar's daughter (whom died in child birth), he can't decide what direction his larger army should take in a pinch? When Pompey was defeated at the the battle of Pharsalus in 48 BC it paved the way for another all time great Caesar quote, "My enemies would have won today if they were not led by a loser." Ouch! Burn. [ATTACH=full]1001886[/ATTACH] For a bit more on the man here is a snip it from wiki on his rise: [B]Gnaeus Pompey Magnus (Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus)[/B][URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-2'][2][/URL] (Classical Latin: [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Latin'][ˈgnae̯.ʊs pɔmˈpɛj.jʊs ˈmaŋ.nʊs][/URL]; 29 September 106 BC – 28 September 48 BC),[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-Brit-1'][1][/URL] usually known in English as [B]Pompey[/B] [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English']/ˈpɒmpiː/[/URL] or [B]Pompey the Great[/B],[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-3'][3][/URL]was a military and political leader of the late [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Republic']Roman Republic[/URL]. He came from a wealthy [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picenum']Italian provincial[/URL] background, and his father had been the first to establish the family among the [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobiles']Roman nobility[/URL]. Pompey's immense success as a general while still very young enabled him to advance directly to his first [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_consul']consulship[/URL] without meeting the normal [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum']requirements for office[/URL]. His success as a military commander in [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulla%27s_second_civil_war']Sulla's second civil war[/URL]resulted in Sulla bestowing the [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognomen']cognomen[/URL][URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus']Magnus[/URL], "the Great", upon him. His Roman adversaries insulted him as adulescentulus carnifex, "the teenage butcher", after his Sicilian campaign.[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey#cite_note-4'][4][/URL] He was consul three times (twice with [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crassus']Crassus[/URL] and once a consul without a partner) and celebrated three [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_triumph']triumphs[/URL]. Pompey facing left his son Sextus (the man was clearly sex obsessed;)) facing right, this Janiform is my first and only, so far, featuring the likes of the great man [ATTACH=full]1001834[/ATTACH] Sextus Pompey Ӕ As. Spain or Sicily, 45 BC. Laureate head of Janus, with the features of Cn. Pompeius Magnus; [MGN] above / Prow right; [PIVS] above, IMP below. Crawford 479/1; CPP I 671. 19.23g, 28mm, Fine. Ex-Savoca [ATTACH=full]1001833[/ATTACH] Julius Caesar P. Sepullius Macer - Venus Denarius,lifetime issue Feb-March 44 BC. Moneyer P. Sepullius Macer. Obv: CAESAR DICT PERPETVO legend with laureate and veiled head of Gaius Julius Caesar right. Rev: P SEPVLLIVS MACER legend with Venus standing left, holding Victory in right hand, and sceptre set on shield in left. 20mm, 3.18 grams. Crawford 480/13; Sydenham 1074; RSC 39; Sear 1414. Fine. Scarce. Ex-Savoca Please post coins and stories to help me celebrate the life of a man who did so much so young that if he didn't lose to Caesar he might've been stabbed to death in the forum underneath a statue of Julius Caesar![/QUOTE]
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