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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ryro, post: 7979852, member: 91461&quot;]&quot;Half of what I say is meaningless.&quot;</p><p>Such a perfect lyric for Julia the Elder:[ATTACH=full]1384904[/ATTACH]</p><p>The most impactful woman that time forgot. Who 2059 years ago on the 30th of October was born to Augustus and Scribonia, before Augy would leave her mother for a young married woman named Livia, Julia Agusta. Mother to her future husband.</p><p><br /></p><p>Having already read a thorough and knowledgeable write up by a very trusted peer (how didn&#039;t this one get featured???): <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/women-in-the-ancient-world-what-weve-learned-and-have-we-through-experiences-of-julia-the-elder.371673/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/women-in-the-ancient-world-what-weve-learned-and-have-we-through-experiences-of-julia-the-elder.371673/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/women-in-the-ancient-world-what-weve-learned-and-have-we-through-experiences-of-julia-the-elder.371673/</a></p><p>I&#039;ve no need to reinvent the principate.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1384907[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>With her possibly being my favorite Julia, I felt it worth a mention.</p><p>Being Augustus&#039; only child and wife to the man behind the mask, Agrippa... and Tiberius. And throw in that she was Caligula&#039;s gammy.</p><p>This makes her one of the most impactful women in history, that barely anyone knows of:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1384901[/ATTACH]</p><p>Posthumous Coinage of Augustus</p><p>Livia and Julia under Augustus. Bronze</p><p>10-2 BC, Pergamum/Mysia. LIBIAN</p><p>HPAN XAPINOS Draped bust of Livia</p><p>(as Hera) to r. Rev.( IO)YLIAN</p><p>(AFP)ODIT(HN) Draped bust of Julia</p><p>(as Venus)! to r 18 mm,. 3,79 g. BMC</p><p>248. RPC 2359. Vagi 370248. Very rare</p><p>Julia Daughter of Augustus by his first</p><p>wife Scribonia. Born 39 BC, she was the</p><p>wife of Marcellus, Agrippa and Tiberius,</p><p>respectively. Banished by her father to</p><p>the island of Pandataria in 2 BC, she</p><p>remained there 5 years and then was</p><p>allowed to reside in Rhegium, where</p><p>she died in 14 AD.</p><p><br /></p><p>Dad:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1384909[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Stepmother:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1384910[/ATTACH]</p><p>Hubbies:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1384911[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1384916[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Grandson:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1384912[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And on and on we could go with the world shaking and ruling relations she had until Nero killed the rest of the Julio-Claudian line and himself.</p><p><br /></p><p>As with all of the ancient scandalous stories of sexual depravity from the Augustas, that lord I wish were true, we have to take it all with a huge grain of salt. Look at who the sources were and served at the time they wrote their versions of history.</p><p><br /></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]TZip_br_v3w[/MEDIA]</p><p><br /></p><p>Please share your coins of hers, her kin, thoughts or anything that shakes Augustus to his core![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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