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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4940990, member: 110504"]With thanks to you and [USER=75936]@GregH[/USER], for an illuminating answer to a commensurately intelligent question, there was one interval that's gotten a measure of neglect. As [USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER] noted, the denarius survived as money of account through the chaos of the early middle ages (from here, that's, maybe, 6th-8th centuries). The first <i>novi denarii</i>, of vaguely comparable weight and fineness to Roman denarii, but on broader and correspondingly thinner flans, were introduced by the Carolingians from the 8th century. Best known of this early phase are the ones of Charlemagne, following his 'imperial' coronation in 800, toward the end of his reign. </p><p>From there, there was a seamless progression, in France, to the royal and feudal deniers of the 10th century through the 13th, and later. </p><p>Fast forward, not to Anglo-Saxon England, but the Normans and Angevins (/Plantagenets; same family, mostly divided between early and late ones). From here, Medieval Latin English documents start to refer to contemporaneous pennies as 'denarii.' ...Maybe most often in abbreviation. Here's where you get the old British construct, '4d,' instead of '4p' from. </p><p>...And if anyone can cite anything simultaneously in Latin and from the Anglo-Saxon period, referring to pennies as 'denarii,' I'll be busted, and you will have advanced modern science. (Need an imogee for 'stuff coming out my nose.')[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4940990, member: 110504"]With thanks to you and [USER=75936]@GregH[/USER], for an illuminating answer to a commensurately intelligent question, there was one interval that's gotten a measure of neglect. As [USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER] noted, the denarius survived as money of account through the chaos of the early middle ages (from here, that's, maybe, 6th-8th centuries). The first [I]novi denarii[/I], of vaguely comparable weight and fineness to Roman denarii, but on broader and correspondingly thinner flans, were introduced by the Carolingians from the 8th century. Best known of this early phase are the ones of Charlemagne, following his 'imperial' coronation in 800, toward the end of his reign. From there, there was a seamless progression, in France, to the royal and feudal deniers of the 10th century through the 13th, and later. Fast forward, not to Anglo-Saxon England, but the Normans and Angevins (/Plantagenets; same family, mostly divided between early and late ones). From here, Medieval Latin English documents start to refer to contemporaneous pennies as 'denarii.' ...Maybe most often in abbreviation. Here's where you get the old British construct, '4d,' instead of '4p' from. ...And if anyone can cite anything simultaneously in Latin and from the Anglo-Saxon period, referring to pennies as 'denarii,' I'll be busted, and you will have advanced modern science. (Need an imogee for 'stuff coming out my nose.')[/QUOTE]
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