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Message:: [QUOTE="Moderndollarnut, post: 648757, member: 19827"]Not every day one has a first post on a worthy coin forum. CEO of Brooklyn, nice summary of the early Ike designs! The Ike Group is presently trying to make sense of the Ike doubled dies: those efforts are fully transparent on our web site and include some radical "new-think" such as a concept based on observations from Ikes and from Mint Ike Records that Roger Burdette found in his extensive search for Morgan and Peace Dollar records (there are precious few mint records from the Ike era as Mint Director Stella Hackel (a Vermonter I blush to admit) decided the most cost effective approach to all the Ike records was to destroy them: by and large the only records extent are those the Mint released before the Hackel era and those Roger fround mis-filed in mint records!) This particular "new think" (whicht may add yet another variable to our understanding Ike DD's) is the Mint's use of "promotional hubbing" (retrograde hubbing) to create 1971 and 1972 master dies from working dies. If you think about it, there is no reason all hubbing had to be "down line" as the process would be the same in either direction. One advantage of retrograde hubbing is one could take a fresh working die from a group that really worked well and retrograde-hub a new master die from which to then propogate this sucessful working die. Are we having fun or what! Rob Ezerman[/QUOTE]