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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ken Dorney, post: 3498199, member: 76086&quot;]Not to confuse the issue, but add to the list above:&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Private mint issues which are sometimes under authority and sometimes not.</p><p>Burial coins.</p><p>Gaming tokens.</p><p><br /></p><p>Any of which can be as much as 2,000 years old (but the OP coins are not).&nbsp; I suspect charms are not as popular in China as they once were, so I imagine they are now produced with the collectibles market in mind.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, the second oblong charm is a known type.&nbsp; It is cataloged in Sequel of Classic Chinese Charms, #1935 (in the Japanese section).&nbsp; Of particular note is what they say there:&nbsp; &quot;Tian Bao Di Bao charm, bronze, probably made around Taisho period.&nbsp; P.S.: The late brass edition is $25.&nbsp; There are many recent fakes of this type.&quot;[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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