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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;kaparthy, post: 3789815, member: 57463&quot;]We do not do much with these here.&nbsp; Over the years, we have had few discussions, and most of them were thin.</p><p><br /></p><p>2011 did not go anywhere</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/militaria-collectors.192459/#post-1271004" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/militaria-collectors.192459/#post-1271004">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/militaria-collectors.192459/#post-1271004</a></p><p><br /></p><p>2010 Deep discussion on an interesting medal(lion)</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mystery-coin-please-help.105632/#post-877251" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mystery-coin-please-help.105632/#post-877251">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mystery-coin-please-help.105632/#post-877251</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Another short talk from 2010</p><p>(Aviator medal World War I)</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/world-war-medals.148080/#post-1067000" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/world-war-medals.148080/#post-1067000">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/world-war-medals.148080/#post-1067000</a></p><p><br /></p><p>A Clinker thread from 2011 about medals, etc., from Darmstadt.</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/trivia-medals-of-german-state-darmstadt.184772/#post-1218724" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/trivia-medals-of-german-state-darmstadt.184772/#post-1218724">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/trivia-medals-of-german-state-darmstadt.184772/#post-1218724</a></p><p><br /></p><p>2009 thread from someone looking to price a World War I medal</p><p>(CWTokenMan offered a citation:</p><p><i>Military Medals and Decorations, A Price Guide for Collectors</i> by Yves Arden, 1976.)</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/371st-infantry-medallion.61163/#post-638826" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/371st-infantry-medallion.61163/#post-638826">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/371st-infantry-medallion.61163/#post-638826</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This weekend I went to a couple of coin stores looking for orders and decorations. I had in mind the usual civilian types that we find in with other medals and tokens: the high school band, the Latin club, that sort of thing...&nbsp; My intention was to build a different medal entirely from a ribbon and a numismatic medal(lion) for a personal award ceremony. What I found at the bottom of a dealer&#039;s junk box where these:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1012230[/ATTACH]</p><p>At left a <b>National Defense</b> medal give for service specifically in World War II, Korea, Vietnam, and the current GWOT.&nbsp; At right a <b>Good Conduct</b> medal for (a) three years of exemplary conduct or (b) one year in World War II without a discipline problem.</p><p><br /></p><p>Because of their condition and lack of attention and care given to them, I thought that they were common civiiian medals from World War II. Researching them was ridiculously easy. I took them apart, washed the silks out by hand, and put them back together. Now, I am pretty much stuck with them. I only display the awards I earned. Right now they are in with my other tokens and medals. I cannot even put them in with my dad&#039;s DD-214 and 201 records because he did not earn these.</p><p><br /></p><p>Like others here, I am internally conflicted on these. On the one hand, we preserve and study history. Orders and decorations are a subset of numismatics. On the other hand, we have &quot;stolen valor&quot; in the news all the time. Having these floating around in the after-markets just enables that. So, I dunno...</p><p><br /></p><p>But I do know that I am disappointed to have found these at the bottom of a dealer&#039;s junk box. I understand and appreciate the distinction between the Commerical Ethic and the Guardian Ethic. (See Jane Jacobs, <i>Systems of Survival: A Dialogue on the Moral Foundations of Commerce and Politics</i>, 1992.<i>)</i> And this dealer was not a veteran. So, for him, he probably paid nothing for them and had no customer wanting one; thus they were junk to him.</p><p><br /></p><p>In a new topic thread, (<a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/numistube-numismatics-and-phaleristics-channel-on-youtube.348494/#post-3771796" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/numistube-numismatics-and-phaleristics-channel-on-youtube.348494/#post-3771796">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/numistube-numismatics-and-phaleristics-channel-on-youtube.348494/#post-3771796</a>) @<b>zviscevic</b> offered the label &quot;phaleristics&quot; for the study of orders and medals. Apparently, the word is known in Europe. I have never heard it here. We just say &quot;Orders and Decorations.&quot;[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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