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Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by jody526, Jun 5, 2007.

  1. jody526

    jody526 New Member

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  3. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    jody,

    We need to see the coin!


    Frank
     
  4. Jhonn

    Jhonn Team Awesome

    Mmm, I think pics are missing.
     
  5. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

  6. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    But the Sainsbury ones are not so common, they were given away at the opening of new store I believe :smile

    :kewl:
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Some say Brockage, and that would seem to ecplain the reverse "PLURIBUS". Yes, I agree with a brockage.

    My main question concerns the far right edge.

    How was the rim upset, and how was the edge reeded? I don't think that is reeding, perhaps part of the design from the coin in the die about this one.
     
  8. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    That is amazing !

    Normal coin gets struck, then somehow goes back to stage 1.
    It gets offstruck with a brockage die.....
     
  9. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Sorry. Didn't mean to cause such confusion.

    My general policy is to avoid posting to threads that I have no knowledge of.
     
  10. Jhonn

    Jhonn Team Awesome

    Yes, that is a strange error. I don't know enough about errors in general to really comment, but that had to have been a fully struck, normal nickel that managed to go back through the minting process, hence the upset rim and everything, right? How'd you come across it, BTW?
     
  11. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Negative.
    The rims on blanks are upset prior to the designs being struck.

    Here is an educational link on the minting process...

    http://www.nvo.com/ecnewletter/howtheunitedstatesmintmakescoins/

    Not mine.
    I ask for my own curiosity, and because it was the subject of another thread.
     
  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Jhonn & Jerome:

    In no instance did anyone say that the coin had been re-struck a second time (by going thru the coining press a second time).
    I can make a guess that a blank planchet entered the die area and an already struck coin was not fully ejected.
    The first coin, already properly struck, lay between the die and the planchet. When the new planchet was struck, creating the coin shown, it was impressed with the already struck design from the not fully ejected coin.
    Thereby imparting the reversed design that you see in the picture.


    And: Jody: If you only posted items that you had full knowledge about, then how would anyone learn?

    In addition, the comments of others make me think about the minting process.
    Thanks for the posting and the picture.
    P.S. Can you show a picture of the reverse?
     
  13. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It's a partial brockage. An nickel was struck into the planchet represented by your coin. The "reeding" is damage from a coin counting or coin wrapping machine.
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Well, Mike knows what he is talking about-- so, accept it.
    Thanks, Mike
     
  15. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Thank you.
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It appears that the coin was already struck when it received the second partial brockage strike. You can see the flattened distorted IN of IN GOD WE TRUST in the brockage area. Also this coin was not in the collar when it received the PB strike because that area is flattened and stretched out so the coin is not round. If it had received the PB at the same time that it received the initial strike it would have been down in the collar and would have stayed round.
     
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