Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Opinions please: Philetairos fine style tetradrachm
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3135686, member: 19463"]I believe the main difference with ancients is that grading is not simply a matter of wear. NGC recognizes three factors but still places wear ahead of strike and surface. To me, strike, surface and style all outrank wear. Earliest modern coins share this to a degree with their 'details' grades but most modern collectors simple ignore coins with non-wear faults since there are so many available with none. Fewer than half of all ancient types even come in the highest grades. All ancients have been cleaned (some better than others). Many coins were not MS on the day they were made. Patina can actually improve a coin in most of our opinions so we might need a scale of 7000 levels rather than the Sheldon 70. Collectors who choose only to own perfect coins will never specialize in many fascinating areas of the hobby. </p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding write-ups: I enjoy write-ups that teach me something but tire of cut and paste from Wikipedia. I can read Wikipedia if I choose. Tell me something about the coin or how it might fit into either history or the big picture of the coinage of that period. I do not consider catalog numbers lifted from secondary sources as part of a good write-up and would rather have an explanation of the situation that made the coin RIC x rather than RIC y instead of a copied number that is not understood. I spent a lot of time writing up coins for my web pages but generally ignored calls for catalog clones from those whose only interest in the coins is the ID number.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3135686, member: 19463"]I believe the main difference with ancients is that grading is not simply a matter of wear. NGC recognizes three factors but still places wear ahead of strike and surface. To me, strike, surface and style all outrank wear. Earliest modern coins share this to a degree with their 'details' grades but most modern collectors simple ignore coins with non-wear faults since there are so many available with none. Fewer than half of all ancient types even come in the highest grades. All ancients have been cleaned (some better than others). Many coins were not MS on the day they were made. Patina can actually improve a coin in most of our opinions so we might need a scale of 7000 levels rather than the Sheldon 70. Collectors who choose only to own perfect coins will never specialize in many fascinating areas of the hobby. Regarding write-ups: I enjoy write-ups that teach me something but tire of cut and paste from Wikipedia. I can read Wikipedia if I choose. Tell me something about the coin or how it might fit into either history or the big picture of the coinage of that period. I do not consider catalog numbers lifted from secondary sources as part of a good write-up and would rather have an explanation of the situation that made the coin RIC x rather than RIC y instead of a copied number that is not understood. I spent a lot of time writing up coins for my web pages but generally ignored calls for catalog clones from those whose only interest in the coins is the ID number.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Opinions please: Philetairos fine style tetradrachm
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...