Opinions? 1928-S Standing Quarter

To me, the leg on the 1928-S looks better than on the 1917. And I don't think it's a harsh point at all, as in large part, that leg often determines the grade of such coins.

 

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I tried to explain it already. It's a matter of having some combination of the right coins, the right relationship and the right knowledge with which to negotiate.

 

I wasen't comparing the strike "differences" , rather than similarities. I agree the leg on this issue is a focal point. However your concern was simply a discoloration on the 1917.
How severe is that in determining the overall grade?

 

I'll look at them both again.

 

My concern is the leg on the 1917, which I'm guessing has hits and or luster breaks over a good portion of it. And if it looks like I suspect it will in person, I think a 64 grade is all the coin deserves. That's despite the fact that, overall, it appears quite appealing.

 

Definately a FH , very nice coin , the rivets are stronger than most of that date , to get one with a nicer FH and full rivets , it will take a while to find and cost quite a bit more . IMO
rzage Sorry guys LOL , I thought I was like the 5th person responding , I hate when it brings you to somewhere to the beginning of the post .

 

Ok, after re-examining the photo of the 1917, it does appear to have a few more hits in the upper thigh area, and with the overall strike, I too now see the 28-S strike is superior to the 1917 . But we all know, a coin in hand .....yadda yaddda. I'm still waiting for the action to begin on the ebay 28-S. I'd still pay above 64 money on this 1917 though.

 

I have a 1917 T1 MS65 FH for a comparison if it pleases anyone.

 

Lehigh, can you do any better with the photos? looks sweet! from these pics that reverse almost looks mirror-like

 

By better, do you mean bigger?




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Thanks a real looker. But seeing this 65 and focussing in on the leg of the 1917 for comparison, they don't seem to be far apart at all ( no pun intended) to clarify which 17,the one graded 64 in a previous post.

 

Ok - I finally got home and looking closely at this example I can see why it was graded a 64. First, that is a very decent hit on the left leg. Also, there is machine doubling on the reverse. The Neck also has a hit.

All that being said, I still disagree with this grade. There are a couple of minor rim dents. A scratch about the 'O' in 'of'. Unless there is impairment of the luster, this is a clear MS65 to me. In addition, I would have paid a decent premium on this coin because I LOOOVEEE this strike. I looked for a coin like this for a long time, it is a great find.

Ruben

 

Paul sweet coin!!

 

PCGS's Grading Standards of FH

Full Head (FH) - Standing Liberty Quarters.

1. Three leaves must be clear and distinct in Liberty’s hair.
2. Earhole must be present.
3. Hairline must be distinct from top of forehead to back of neck.

 

I don't believe there was ever any question about this being a FH.
The reason I posted these images was to show what I considered a fully struck shield vs. the OP's SLQ.
I think this demonstrates that a FH is not the end-all and be-all for SHQs.
A FH indicates a well struck SLQ but not necessarily a fully struck one.

I included the reverse just to completely documant my coin.
Many of you, like me, are a bit perplexed by the MS-64 grade.
Most of you think better of the coin.
The are a number of marks, but none in the prime focal areas.
Nothing the jumps out and grabs you and makes you think 'Ugh, look at that!'
The things I see are the type that would keep a coin from grading above MS-65.

I could send it to CAC and see if I could get one of their stickers but as I understand it, all their sticker says is that it's above average for the grade.
Not that it should be graded higher.
And as much as I like slabs, I still dislike the CAC concept.

 

I second that assessment! I recall snapping on you Mikey, a few times for over bluntness. Are you feeling ok, all this inuendo and mellowness? :high5:

 

I suspect my ego will survive.

 

Be happy that it is a stunning coin and in this case the slab is irrelevant. That coin will creat its own real world market based on the beauty of the strike.

Ruben

 

CACs green sticker means it's at least average for the grade and might be high end for the grade , Their gold sticker means they think it's undergraded .
rzage:thumb:

 

AS for comparing a 1917-P Type 1 to a 1928-S is like comparing apples to oranges as stated before , the 1917 - P Type - 1 is the best struck coin of the bunch with about 80% having FHs , compared to the 28-S where maybe 5% have FHs , a '28-S with a strong FH and Full Shield are Quite rare and would go at least 3X bid or more . IMO . The information is from J. Clines book Standing Liberty Quaurters .
rzage