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<p>[QUOTE="physics-fan3.14, post: 3274044, member: 19165"]So many questions in one post! </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>As a general rule, more problems equals lower value. Cleaned reduces value, cleaned and artificially toned (AT) reduces the value even more. The amount the value is reduced depends on how bad the cleaning or AT is. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Key date coins will still be expensive, even if they have problems. Because key date coins are always in demand, certain problems are forgiven more easily. They will still sell at a discount, but not as much. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, for coins like this, you will usually still find someone who wants it. It will be harder to sell, and you will have to take a steep discount from what a problem free, original, or attractive example will bring. The bust half would sell for close to a problem free coin's price because its problems aren't too bad, but the Morgan would probably sell at a pretty big discount. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, both of these coins are circulated and show signs of wear. </p><p><br /></p><p>On the bust half coin, the pictures aren't great, but wear is readily visible. This coin would probably grade AU-50. The lighting on this picture shows really bright highlights on the cheek and hair, so trying to get meaningful information here is useless (normally, wear will first appear on her cheek and the hair above her ear). However, if you cast your eyes down a bit towards her bust (for shame!)... you'll see wear on her breasts and the folds of her gown. This appears as "flattening" of the high point details. While the high points should be rounded, here they are flattened, and you can also see a subtle change in color. The highest (most rounded) parts are a different shade of grey. In photographs, that is a clear sign of wear. </p><p><br /></p><p>For the Morgan, I would expect wear to appear on the eagle's breast. One of the reasons that coin doctors artificially tone coins like this (AU coins that they may be able to fool people into thinking are UNC), is because the toning will hide the wear. However, we look here for a very similar thing as the bust half.... a change in color. Notice how the eagle's breast has a different color? That's because the worn areas have reacted slightly differently than the unworn areas. I'd suspect that this coin is a high-AU, but the toning makes you think its UNC.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="physics-fan3.14, post: 3274044, member: 19165"]So many questions in one post! As a general rule, more problems equals lower value. Cleaned reduces value, cleaned and artificially toned (AT) reduces the value even more. The amount the value is reduced depends on how bad the cleaning or AT is. Key date coins will still be expensive, even if they have problems. Because key date coins are always in demand, certain problems are forgiven more easily. They will still sell at a discount, but not as much. Yes, for coins like this, you will usually still find someone who wants it. It will be harder to sell, and you will have to take a steep discount from what a problem free, original, or attractive example will bring. The bust half would sell for close to a problem free coin's price because its problems aren't too bad, but the Morgan would probably sell at a pretty big discount. Yes, both of these coins are circulated and show signs of wear. On the bust half coin, the pictures aren't great, but wear is readily visible. This coin would probably grade AU-50. The lighting on this picture shows really bright highlights on the cheek and hair, so trying to get meaningful information here is useless (normally, wear will first appear on her cheek and the hair above her ear). However, if you cast your eyes down a bit towards her bust (for shame!)... you'll see wear on her breasts and the folds of her gown. This appears as "flattening" of the high point details. While the high points should be rounded, here they are flattened, and you can also see a subtle change in color. The highest (most rounded) parts are a different shade of grey. In photographs, that is a clear sign of wear. For the Morgan, I would expect wear to appear on the eagle's breast. One of the reasons that coin doctors artificially tone coins like this (AU coins that they may be able to fool people into thinking are UNC), is because the toning will hide the wear. However, we look here for a very similar thing as the bust half.... a change in color. Notice how the eagle's breast has a different color? That's because the worn areas have reacted slightly differently than the unworn areas. I'd suspect that this coin is a high-AU, but the toning makes you think its UNC.[/QUOTE]
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