Opinion on this 1798 Large Cent?

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  1. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Thank You.
     
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  3. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    If so, could a strike-through of an eye-lash hair on the die cause this?[/QUOTE]

    Looks like a dig to me...
     
  4. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I grade it EF-45. I’m just not seeing enough luster for an AU grade. It will probably get an AU-55 grade. The scratch and dig in front of the chin hurt a bit, and I see some very light porosity behind the bow, but I doubt that it will matter much. I’d have picked it up for what you paid. Once certified, it won’t be too difficult to double your money ;)
     
  5. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I will be very interesting to hear what B. Noyes has to say about this coin.
    Another option may be Jack Robinson, by the way.
     
  6. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    OK, this example is actually already in Noyes as CC 18, ex John Ashby to John D. Wright as VF25(40) AveMinus.

    s157.jpg
     
  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Whaaa? So it's already on record? What does "VF25 (40) AveMinus" mean?
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    So all the "AU and UNC" talk is way off?
     
  9. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Noyes is tough on copper and viewed "damage"; he graded it EF40, downgraded to VF25 due to the marks, scratches, etc.

    This is the world of EAC early copper... AveMinus means he views it as below average for the condition/ variety.
     
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  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Wow.
     
  11. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Still a nice early copper, in the CC and good as long as you didn't pay AU money.

    I thought 45-40 but couldn't reduce it like he did based on your posted images.
     
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  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I paid 1200
     
  13. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Robinson in his last guide (2011) showed this example worth $2000.00.
     
  14. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    EAC grading is tough!
    Even at EAC VF25 AveMinus this is a very appealing (and valuable) coin.

    Interestingly, the previous CQR (19th Ed, 2008) seems to list higher values than the last edition (20th Ed, 2011) for S-157.
    Maybe more examples have been found in the intervening years?
     
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  15. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Jack, If I may ask, is there a process for submitting a coin for review by B. Noyes?
    I have an S-163 that I would dearly like his opinion on.
     
  16. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Eduard, there is a process listed in his CC of sending a note to Dan Demeo; as Dan and I are EAC friends I have sent him emails with images for his and Noyes' opinions.
     
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  17. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Thank you very much, Jack.
     
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  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Still a market grade of AU all-day, in my opinion. Can't wait to see it in hand late this week.
     
  19. C-B-D

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  20. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Awesome example!
     
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  21. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Eduard, there may be a real opportunity for your S-163; I sent you a PM about it when you get a chance.
     
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