Opinion on Grade

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Endeavor, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    PCGS graded it VG08. Looks a little bit under-graded to me. What do you think?
     
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  3. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Maybe. What does photograde look like?
     
  4. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister The Coin Scavenger © ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    In my opinion, it is definitely better than VG8. I'd peg it at a high F12. With the bump that old big silver gets from the TPGs, I would hazard to guess that it might even go VF20 on a good day?

    ANA guidelines for VG8:

    Obverse: Entire head is weak, and most hair details and drapery are worn smooth. Date and LIBERTY are weak but visible. Parts of the eye and eyebrow are visible. Stars are outlined, with some tips worn flat.

    Reverse: Eagle is boldly outlined with only a few details showing in wings. Clouds, head, and top of shield are smooth. Some letters in legend are very weak; parts of motto are missing.
    Edit: I defer to the experts. I'm too high.
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2019
  5. Mainebill

    Mainebill Wild Bill

    I think it’s vg 10. O-109 probably the most common variety for the year. I’ve had a bunch of them. But I like the original unmolested surfaces and honest wear
     
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  6. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    IMO it matches up well with PCGS photograde at VG 08
     
  7. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's been downgraded for the scratch on the lower left of the shield
     
  8. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser Just plain busted

    O-109s don't have the stem through the claw. It's actually 115--another common DM for the year although the prime state with no obverse die cracks is much less common than the later stages. I don't think it makes Fine and like it as a VG-08 to 10.
     
  9. C-B-D

    C-B-D U.S. Type Coins or death!

    That's a picture perfect VG08.
     
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  10. Mainebill

    Mainebill Wild Bill

    My bad. You’re absolutely right. Sorry I was tired and confused the 2. I think almost every 1806 I’ve had was either 109 or 115
     
  11. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    The obverse looks like the definition of VG. The reverse looks nicer, but you have to grade by the obverse. Nice coin.
     
  12. Magnus87

    Magnus87 Member

    I seem to be missing something: I don’t see a picture (tho I’m sure it’s an interesting coin).
     
  13. SLACKACTION

    SLACKACTION UNION REPRESENTATIVE

    CLICK ON VG08 FIRST POST Mr. Endeavor
     
  14. Magnus87

    Magnus87 Member

    Slack: Thank you! My DOH moment... Actually, based on the photo, it looks to be correctly graded, BUT it’s an extremely nice example for grade, the sort of case that calls for a CAC Green Bean (or maybe an acknowledgement of same by gracing it with a VG10.)
     
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  15. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Sold for $280. Cheap?
     
  16. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    It appears marginally as an VG10, based on Obverse Bust lines detail.

    JMHO
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2019
  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Nice surfaces. VG08 looks right to me.
     
  18. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    Today's market probably correct . I can remember when that would have been a G4 on a GOOD day.
     
  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Some aspects of the design look better than VG-8, but the face and hair are really flat. Most of the grading is based on the obverse, and the key areas there do not support a higher grade.

    It goes with the nature of these early coins. Odd strikes, uneven dies and mounting in the coin press, combined with a lack of protective rims for the design end up with odd, uneven wear.
     
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