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  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Very sorry this happened @Eduard I hope you find another soon.
     
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  3. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Ouch & great post, Eduard! I had the same first reaction as others: shattered at seeing the pieces, and my second reaction was: "Cool" - let's get out the microscope and see what that looks like. Thanks for the last photo & best wishes in your search for your replacement.
     
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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

  5. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    You shouldn't have trouble finding a replacement. They aren't that expensive. Im a cheapskate and I have 2 dozen neros- including 3 denarius lol Especially the latter era( where Nero really gained a lot of LBs)
     
  6. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Here's a coin that I will not try to test - but it is a little tempting... a silver denarius of 47 to 46 B.C. from Julius Caesar (shown below) where he claims as ancestors Aeneas, founder of Rome, and the goddess Venus, mother of Aeneas. The coin shows Aeneas carrying his father, Anchises, away from a burning Troy, with Venus on the Obverse.

    Nothing obvious from the obverse - the reverse a different story: a significant issue near the chipped edge, and an interesting defect extending from the right knee of Aeneas.

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  7. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    The broken denarius has a reverse that is rare for Nero. Yes they can be found (I have one) but there is plenty of competition for them when they come to auction and this drives up the price. This particular coin is sought after and hunted by collectors who want a rare and unusual denarius of Nero.
     
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  8. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I'm with you on that...I mean, if you realize there is, or may be a crack, what's the point in testing it...at what point do you determine to stop putting stress on the coin, "just before it breaks?" I see no sense in this type of "test". JMO :cigar:
     
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  9. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    first aid kit for broken coins:

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  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Of all my ancients, this Roman Republic is the one I am concerned with the most, but so far it's been OK and rarely handled.

    But you can see if it drops on someplace hard, it could easily shatter.

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    Cn. Egnatius Cn.f. Cn.n. Maxsumus. (76 B.C.)
    AR Denarius
    O: Diademed and draped bust of Libertas right; pileus to left.
    R: Roma and Venus standing facing, each holding a sceptre; rudder on prow on either side.
    Rome Mint
    3.36g
    20mm
    Crawford 391/3; Sydenham 787; Egnatia 2
     
  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

  12. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Sad. I bought this one broken for $11. On the way to me, it broke again. I super glued it back together.

    I usually would not buy broken coins... but after a bottle of wine , $11 for 3/4 of an Augustus denarius sounded like a good deal... and still does really.

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  13. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    My sincere condolances, Eduard. I wanted the following coin because of the well centered portrait of JC and the depiction of Venus Victrix ..........

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    Julius Caesar
    Denarius, Crawford, Roman Republican Coins (RRC), No. 480/8 (March 44 BC - Alföldi)
    Weight: 3.5g

    ………… but I handle it with a great deal of apprehension!
     
  14. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    So sorry for that Nero @Eduard !

    Q
     
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  15. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Hopefully, you will find a beautifull replacement for your Nero. I have one coin in my collection that has die cracks on obverse. Coin is a 1749 Antwerpen Mint/ Double Souverain d'or from Austrian Netherlands/ Empress Maria Theresia
    still graded as FDC. Many 1600-1800 coins have "adjustments" marks/ die cracks/ rusty dies/ worn dies problems. 994ce2f6bf496dcda526b1dd6126346e (1).jpg 2fe275c226ee7d05f7e31a54253c9bfc.jpg
     
  16. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Here's one of mine that's been glued but not by me. Very stable

    AugustusAgrippa.jpg

    Augustus & Agrippa by C. Sulpicius Platorinus
    CAESAR AVGVSTVS
    bare head right

    C SVLPICIVS PLATORIN
    Augustus and Agrippa, both togate, seated half l. on bisellium set on platform ornamented with rostra. On l., staff upright.

    3.72g
    Rome 13 BC

    RSC 529, RIC 407, Sear 1599

    Ex-ANE,
     
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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  18. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I thought I would show you this rare denarius of the Civil War 68-69 (Minted in Gaul, Jupiter Capitolinus) which I returned to the seller not long ago due to a planchet crack.
    This was not clearly evident (or mentioned) in the sellers original photos, and I was dismayed and disappointed when I had this rare coin in-hand and saw it. I was not ready to run the risk of ending up with two (very expensive!) halves of a denarius in my hands.

    Civil War Denarius Jupiter OBV1 N  - 1.jpg Civil War Denarius Jupiter Capitolinus REV1 N  - 1.jpg
     
  19. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    OH JEEZ.....i'm so sorry for you friend..:(..i've had only one break on me... it broke as i took it out of the coin window..the dealer took it back, but it still bothers me to this day... broke! trajan concordia 002.JPG broke! trajan concordia 006.JPG
     
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  20. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    I wouldn't recommend doing this for a coin you dont actually own. Here in the US we have a saying, "If you break it you buy it." This is also a good example of why one should never partake of the great myth, the 'ring test'. If anyone wants to read up on that:

    https://www.cointalk.com/search/3904982/?q=ring test&o=date&c[node]=9

    I suppose this also serves as a precautionary tale for what we might now call the 'bend test."
     
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  21. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I am surprised any of you really thought I meant this seriously:).

    This is a no-no whether in the US or EU.

    However, I would like to see the expression on the dealers face if you tell him
    "I'll buy it if it passes this here 'bend test'..."
     
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