oooh aaah toning/patina

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  1. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

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    Just got this in the mail and loving that iridiscent toning. Would like to see other members' coins with standout patinas!

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  3. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    WoWiE! Incredible coin and brilliant toning:woot::wideyed: Might I ask how you got such a great capture of the toning?
    Here's a couple RRs and a Greek that I'm pretty happy with:
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  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    Lovely examples all. Here is one that I love. It is difficult to capture the iridescence.

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  5. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    I dunno, I don't find that this type of toning is hard to photograph. It's just, I think, rare to find it so strong. This is pretty common with modern silver, especially Morgans.

    I'm not 100% convinced these rainbowy sheens are ancient. The conditions necessary for it to happen naturally pretty much requires a bunch of silver coins to be tightly spaced in a low-oxygen environment; ie. a hoard. And seeing that people like this type of toning it's tempting to just do it artificially.

    Here's a couple more from my collection:

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  6. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    Here's one with a light green patina that I thought was really attractive. There's so many weird possibilities with copper!

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  7. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis Teen Collector

    Green is both hideous, and beautiful on copper at the same time.
     
  8. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Great coins!!!

    I do love the toning on this Probus..

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  9. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Excellent thread topic, and toned coins.
     
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  11. TuckHard

    TuckHard Well-Known Member

    985-1014 AD Chola Dynasty Stater Rajaraja I 2 Combined.jpg
    985 - 1014 AD
    AE Stater issued under Rajaraja I of the Chola Dynasty
    Ruled southern India, much of Sri Lanka, and the Maldives
    Some of the patina, especially on the reverse, may quite possibly be bronze disease​
     
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  12. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Ancient Coin Collectors Guild Supporter

    Beautiful! I don’t own many silver coins—most are bronze. This is probably the most alluring as far as tonality.

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  13. Andres2

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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    I'm a sucker for iridescence :). I showed some of my favorites in the "Toned Ancients..." thread from a few weeks ago but here they are again :D:

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    SICILY, Selinos
    Circa 410 BCE
    AR litra, 11mm, 0.76 g, 1h
    Obv: nymph seated left on rock, right hand raised above her head, extending her left hand to touch coiled serpent before her; selinon leaf above
    Rev: man-faced bull standing right; ΣEΛINONTIOΣ above; in exergue, fish right
    Ref: Potamikon, p. 116 figure 152 (this coin); HGC 2, 1229; SNG ANS 711–2 var. (ethnic); SNG Ashmolean 1904–5; SNG Lloyd 1270 var. (same); Basel –; Dewing –; Rizzo pl. XXXIII, 6. Good VF, dark iridescent tone, some porosity. Rare.
    ex MoneyMuseum, Zurich;
    ex Leu 79 (31 October 2000), lot 404;
    ex Athos Moretti collection, #482, unpublished manuscript


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    KINGS OF MACEDON, Philip II. 356-336 BCE
    AR tetradrachm. 24mm, 14.20 gm, 12h
    Pella, 342-336 BCE
    Obv: Laureate head of Zeus right
    Rev: ΦIΛIΠ-ΠOY, youth, holding palm and reins, on horseback right, thunderbolt below, N in exergue
    Ref: Le Rider 222-306. SNG ANS 385-95
    ex Colosseo Collection

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    KINGS OF MACEDON, Alexander III
    AR tetradrachm, 17.14 gm
    late lifetime issue, struck in Aradus c. 324/3 BCE
    Obv: Head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin headdress.
    Rev: BAΣIΛEΩΣ AΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ; Zeus seated left, holding eagle and scepter; I in left field; AP monogram below throne
    Ref: Price 3325
    ex Colosseo Collection

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    CORINTHIA, Corinth
    circa 375-300 BCE
    AR stater, 22 mm, 8.55 g, 1h
    Obv: Pegasus flying left; qoppa below
    Rev: helmeted head of Athena left; A-P flanking neck truncation; to right, chimaera rampant left
    Ref: Ravel 1010; Pegasi 428; BCD Corinth 102; HGC 4, 1848
    ex CNG Inventory 828126 (November, 2008)
    ex Gorny & Mosch 170 (13 October 2008), lot 1381
    ex Giessener Münzhandlung 21 (22 March 1982), lot 37


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    Roman Republic
    moneyer L. Julius L. f. Caesar, 103 BC

    AR denarius, 17mm, 3.9 gm
    Obv: Helmeted head of Mars left; CAESAR; ・C (retrograde)
    Rev: Venus Genetrix in chariot left, drawn by two Cupids; lyre to left; ・C (retrograde) above
    Ref: Crawford 320/1
    ex RBW Collection

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    Roman Republic, the Pompeians
    L. Cornelius Lentulus and C. Claudius Marcellus

    Military mint in the East (Apollonia and Asia), 49 BC
    AR denarius, 19 mm, 3.8 gm
    Obv: Triskeles, with winged head of Medusa facing at center; stalk of grain between each leg
    Rev: Jupiter standing facing, head right, holding thunderbolt in right hand and eagle on left; LE(NT) (MAR) upward to left, COS upward to right
    Ref: Crawford 445/1b; Sydenham 1029a

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC, M. Piso M.f. Frugi
    58 BCE (redated from Crawford's 61 BCE by Hersh and Walker, 1984)
    AR denarius, 20 mm, 3.94 gm
    Obv: terminal bust of Mercury right, wearing winged diadem; calix below chin; to left, star above wreath; dotted border
    Rev: M·PISO·M·F / FRVGI above secespita (sacrificial knife) and patera; all within laurel wreath
    Ref: Crawford 418/2b; Sydenham 825; Calpurnia 23
    formerly slabbed, NGC
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-different-frugi.279241/

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    Lucilla
    Empress CE 163-169, wife of Lucius Verus
    AR denarius, 19 mm, 3.25 gm
    Obv: LVCILLA AVGVSTA; draped bust right
    Rev: PVDICITIA; Pudicitia, veiled, standing left, with right hand preparing to draw a veil across her face (or had she just drawn the veil off her face?), left hand at side
    Ref: RIC III 780

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    Septimius Severus
    Rome, CE 206
    AR denarius, 3.41 gm, 20 mm, 12h
    Obv: SEVERVS PIVS AVG, laureate head right
    Rev: LAETITIA TEMPORVM, the spina of the Circus Maximus decorated as a ship facing left, with the turning posts at its prow and stern, a sail mounted on the central obelisk, and the spina's other monuments visible in between; above the ship, four quadrigas racing left; below, seven animals: an ostrich at left and a bear at right; between them a lion and a lioness chasing a wild ass and a panther attacking a bison
    Ref: RIC 274; BMC 343.
    ex Colosseo Collection
     
  15. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    That's a pretty badass coin with the twisty legs, wow! Almost makes me want to collect RR now :-D
     
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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    ANONYMOUS ROMAN REPUBLIC AR Didrachm
    OBVERSE: Helmeted head of Mars left, oak-sprig behind
    REVERSE: ROMANO on tablet below head of bridled horse right, ear of wheat behind
    Struck at Metapontum, 280-276 BC
    19 mm, 6.55g
    Cr13/1, Syd 1
     
  17. akeady

    akeady Well-Known Member

    I've posted this before, but it's one of my favourite coin photos.

    Augustus denarius. RIC 199.

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  18. Sulla80

    Sulla80 one coin at a time Supporter

    @TIF's iridescent coins are a hard act to follow - The Alex III and Lucilla are pretty amazing too. Here's a nice denarius with "old cabinet patina".
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    Appius Claudius Pulcher, T. Manlius Mancius, and Q. Urbinius. 111-110 BC. AR Denarius, Rome mint
    Obv: Helmeted head of Roma right; quadrangular device to left
    Rev: Victory driving triga right
    Ref: Crawford 299/1b; Sydenham 570a; Mallia 2

    In 111 BC, the Temple of Magna Mater was destroyed by fire and in 110 Jughurtha defeated the Romans when Consul Spurius Postumus Albinus invaded Numidia for a second time...although his victory didn't stand for too long (livius.org)
     
  19. Numisnewbiest

    Numisnewbiest Well-Known Member

    That is one amazing group of coins! I especially love the Philip II and Alexander III...wow!
     
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  20. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis Supporter

    I'm a big fan of coins with nice "old collection" toning:

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    Roman Republic AR Quinarius(16mm, 2.28 g, 12h). Anonymous. After 211 B.C. Uncertain(perhaps Apulian?) mint. Head of Roma right, wearing winged helmet ornamented with griffin's head and three-piece visor, earring an necklace; behind, V. Border of dots / Dioscuri on horseback riding right, each holding couched spear and wearing chlamys, cuirass and pileus surmounted by star; in relief in linear frame, ROMA. Line border. Crawford 45/2; Russo RBW 180; Sydenham 169.

    Ex CNG Triton XXII, 1/9/2018, lot 787, ex Alan J Harlan collection, purchased from Spink & Son

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    Roman Republic AR quinarius(16.3mm, 1.94g, 12h). Anonymous. ca. 212-196 B.C. Apulian mint. Helmeted head of Roma right, V behind / ROMA, the Dioscuri riding right, each holds a spear; H below. Crawford 85/1a; Sydenham 174; RSC 33b; Russo RBW 347.

    Ex RBW Collection, ex Malter XXX(Frederick Hastings Rindge collection, assembled in the 19th century), lot 1473, 6/7/1985.

    A scarcer stylistic variety of the type above, probably struck a little later:
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    Roman Republic AR quinarius(2.16g, 16mm, 9h). Anonymous. ca. 212-196 B.C. Apulian mint. Helmeted head of Roma right, V behind / ROMA, the Dioscuri riding right, each holds a spear; H below. Crawford 85/1a; Sydenham 174; RSC 33b; Russo RBW 348/NAC 61 lot 356(these dies)


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    Roman Republic AR Victoriatus(17 mm, 2.54g, 7h). Anonymous("VB" series). ca. 211-208 B.C. Uncertain mint(traditionally, Vibo Valentia). Laureate head of Jupiter right. Border of dots / Victory standing right, crowning trophy with wreath; VB ligate on exergue between. ROMA in exergue. Line border. Crawford 95/1a; BMCRR Italy 233; Russo RBW 389

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    Roman Republic AR Denarius(4.04g, 18mm). M·IVNI(Marcus Junius Silanus?) series, 145 B.C., Rome mint. Helmeted head of Roma right; behind, ass's head; before, X. Border of dots / Dioscuri galloping right; below, M·IVNI; in exergue, ROMA. Crawford 220/1
    From the Stevens family collection, formed during and shortly after the Second World War
     
  21. Limes

    Limes Well-Known Member

    A very nicely toned coin @Suarez. Overall, lovely coins posted.

    I have two denarii with a sort of golden toning in my collection. But overall I am more fond of the green stuff! A denarius and dupondius posted as examples.

    Gold for the emperor!
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    Still deposits on the reverse. I dont intend to remove it though.
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