oooh aaah toning/patina

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  1. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member


    Just got this in the mail and loving that iridiscent toning. Would like to see other members' coins with standout patinas!

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  3. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    WoWiE! Incredible coin and brilliant toning:woot::wideyed: Might I ask how you got such a great capture of the toning?
    Here's a couple RRs and a Greek that I'm pretty happy with:
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  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    Lovely examples all. Here is one that I love. It is difficult to capture the iridescence.

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  5. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    I dunno, I don't find that this type of toning is hard to photograph. It's just, I think, rare to find it so strong. This is pretty common with modern silver, especially Morgans.

    I'm not 100% convinced these rainbowy sheens are ancient. The conditions necessary for it to happen naturally pretty much requires a bunch of silver coins to be tightly spaced in a low-oxygen environment; ie. a hoard. And seeing that people like this type of toning it's tempting to just do it artificially.

    Here's a couple more from my collection:


  6. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    Here's one with a light green patina that I thought was really attractive. There's so many weird possibilities with copper!

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  7. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis Teen Collector

    Green is both hideous, and beautiful on copper at the same time.
  8. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Supporter! Supporter

    Great coins!!!

    I do love the toning on this Probus..

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  9. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Excellent thread topic, and toned coins.
  10. Andres2

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  11. TuckHard

    TuckHard Well-Known Member

    985-1014 AD Chola Dynasty Stater Rajaraja I 2 Combined.jpg
    985 - 1014 AD
    AE Stater issued under Rajaraja I of the Chola Dynasty
    Ruled southern India, much of Sri Lanka, and the Maldives
    Some of the patina, especially on the reverse, may quite possibly be bronze disease​
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  12. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Smiles, everyone! Supporter

    Beautiful! I don’t own many silver coins—most are bronze. This is probably the most alluring as far as tonality.

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  13. Andres2

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  14. TIF

    TIF Well that didn't last long :D Supporter

    I'm a sucker for iridescence :). I showed some of my favorites in the "Toned Ancients..." thread from a few weeks ago but here they are again :D:

    SICILY, Selinos
    Circa 410 BCE
    AR litra, 11mm, 0.76 g, 1h
    Obv: nymph seated left on rock, right hand raised above her head, extending her left hand to touch coiled serpent before her; selinon leaf above
    Rev: man-faced bull standing right; ΣEΛINONTIOΣ above; in exergue, fish right
    Ref: Potamikon, p. 116 figure 152 (this coin); HGC 2, 1229; SNG ANS 711–2 var. (ethnic); SNG Ashmolean 1904–5; SNG Lloyd 1270 var. (same); Basel –; Dewing –; Rizzo pl. XXXIII, 6. Good VF, dark iridescent tone, some porosity. Rare.
    ex MoneyMuseum, Zurich;
    ex Leu 79 (31 October 2000), lot 404;
    ex Athos Moretti collection, #482, unpublished manuscript

    KINGS OF MACEDON, Philip II. 356-336 BCE
    AR tetradrachm. 24mm, 14.20 gm, 12h
    Pella, 342-336 BCE
    Obv: Laureate head of Zeus right
    Rev: ΦIΛIΠ-ΠOY, youth, holding palm and reins, on horseback right, thunderbolt below, N in exergue
    Ref: Le Rider 222-306. SNG ANS 385-95
    ex Colosseo Collection

    AR tetradrachm, 17.14 gm
    late lifetime issue, struck in Aradus c. 324/3 BCE
    Obv: Head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin headdress.
    Rev: BAΣIΛEΩΣ AΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ; Zeus seated left, holding eagle and scepter; I in left field; AP monogram below throne
    Ref: Price 3325
    ex Colosseo Collection

    CORINTHIA, Corinth
    circa 375-300 BCE
    AR stater, 22 mm, 8.55 g, 1h
    Obv: Pegasus flying left; qoppa below
    Rev: helmeted head of Athena left; A-P flanking neck truncation; to right, chimaera rampant left
    Ref: Ravel 1010; Pegasi 428; BCD Corinth 102; HGC 4, 1848
    ex CNG Inventory 828126 (November, 2008)
    ex Gorny & Mosch 170 (13 October 2008), lot 1381
    ex Giessener Münzhandlung 21 (22 March 1982), lot 37

    Roman Republic
    moneyer L. Julius L. f. Caesar, 103 BC

    AR denarius, 17mm, 3.9 gm
    Obv: Helmeted head of Mars left; CAESAR; ・C (retrograde)
    Rev: Venus Genetrix in chariot left, drawn by two Cupids; lyre to left; ・C (retrograde) above
    Ref: Crawford 320/1
    ex RBW Collection

    Roman Republic, the Pompeians
    L. Cornelius Lentulus and C. Claudius Marcellus

    Military mint in the East (Apollonia and Asia), 49 BC
    AR denarius, 19 mm, 3.8 gm
    Obv: Triskeles, with winged head of Medusa facing at center; stalk of grain between each leg
    Rev: Jupiter standing facing, head right, holding thunderbolt in right hand and eagle on left; LE(NT) (MAR) upward to left, COS upward to right
    Ref: Crawford 445/1b; Sydenham 1029a

    ROMAN REPUBLIC, M. Piso M.f. Frugi
    58 BCE (redated from Crawford's 61 BCE by Hersh and Walker, 1984)
    AR denarius, 20 mm, 3.94 gm
    Obv: terminal bust of Mercury right, wearing winged diadem; calix below chin; to left, star above wreath; dotted border
    Rev: M·PISO·M·F / FRVGI above secespita (sacrificial knife) and patera; all within laurel wreath
    Ref: Crawford 418/2b; Sydenham 825; Calpurnia 23
    formerly slabbed, NGC

    Empress CE 163-169, wife of Lucius Verus
    AR denarius, 19 mm, 3.25 gm
    Obv: LVCILLA AVGVSTA; draped bust right
    Rev: PVDICITIA; Pudicitia, veiled, standing left, with right hand preparing to draw a veil across her face (or had she just drawn the veil off her face?), left hand at side
    Ref: RIC III 780

    Septimius Severus
    Rome, CE 206
    AR denarius, 3.41 gm, 20 mm, 12h
    Obv: SEVERVS PIVS AVG, laureate head right
    Rev: LAETITIA TEMPORVM, the spina of the Circus Maximus decorated as a ship facing left, with the turning posts at its prow and stern, a sail mounted on the central obelisk, and the spina's other monuments visible in between; above the ship, four quadrigas racing left; below, seven animals: an ostrich at left and a bear at right; between them a lion and a lioness chasing a wild ass and a panther attacking a bison
    Ref: RIC 274; BMC 343.
    ex Colosseo Collection
  15. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    That's a pretty badass coin with the twisty legs, wow! Almost makes me want to collect RR now :-D
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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    OBVERSE: Helmeted head of Mars left, oak-sprig behind
    REVERSE: ROMANO on tablet below head of bridled horse right, ear of wheat behind
    Struck at Metapontum, 280-276 BC
    19 mm, 6.55g
    Cr13/1, Syd 1
  17. akeady

    akeady Well-Known Member

    I've posted this before, but it's one of my favourite coin photos.

    Augustus denarius. RIC 199.

  18. Sulla80

    Sulla80 one coin at a time Supporter

    @TIF's iridescent coins are a hard act to follow - The Alex III and Lucilla are pretty amazing too. Here's a nice denarius with "old cabinet patina".
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    Appius Claudius Pulcher, T. Manlius Mancius, and Q. Urbinius. 111-110 BC. AR Denarius, Rome mint
    Obv: Helmeted head of Roma right; quadrangular device to left
    Rev: Victory driving triga right
    Ref: Crawford 299/1b; Sydenham 570a; Mallia 2

    In 111 BC, the Temple of Magna Mater was destroyed by fire and in 110 Jughurtha defeated the Romans when Consul Spurius Postumus Albinus invaded Numidia for a second time...although his victory didn't stand for too long (
  19. Numisnewbiest

    Numisnewbiest Well-Known Member

    That is one amazing group of coins! I especially love the Philip II and Alexander!
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  20. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis Supporter

    I'm a big fan of coins with nice "old collection" toning:

    Roman Republic AR Quinarius(16mm, 2.28 g, 12h). Anonymous. After 211 B.C. Uncertain(perhaps Apulian?) mint. Head of Roma right, wearing winged helmet ornamented with griffin's head and three-piece visor, earring an necklace; behind, V. Border of dots / Dioscuri on horseback riding right, each holding couched spear and wearing chlamys, cuirass and pileus surmounted by star; in relief in linear frame, ROMA. Line border. Crawford 45/2; Russo RBW 180; Sydenham 169.

    Ex CNG Triton XXII, 1/9/2018, lot 787, ex Alan J Harlan collection, purchased from Spink & Son

    Roman Republic AR quinarius(16.3mm, 1.94g, 12h). Anonymous. ca. 212-196 B.C. Apulian mint. Helmeted head of Roma right, V behind / ROMA, the Dioscuri riding right, each holds a spear; H below. Crawford 85/1a; Sydenham 174; RSC 33b; Russo RBW 347.

    Ex RBW Collection, ex Malter XXX(Frederick Hastings Rindge collection, assembled in the 19th century), lot 1473, 6/7/1985.

    A scarcer stylistic variety of the type above, probably struck a little later:
    Roman Republic AR quinarius(2.16g, 16mm, 9h). Anonymous. ca. 212-196 B.C. Apulian mint. Helmeted head of Roma right, V behind / ROMA, the Dioscuri riding right, each holds a spear; H below. Crawford 85/1a; Sydenham 174; RSC 33b; Russo RBW 348/NAC 61 lot 356(these dies)

    Roman Republic AR Victoriatus(17 mm, 2.54g, 7h). Anonymous("VB" series). ca. 211-208 B.C. Uncertain mint(traditionally, Vibo Valentia). Laureate head of Jupiter right. Border of dots / Victory standing right, crowning trophy with wreath; VB ligate on exergue between. ROMA in exergue. Line border. Crawford 95/1a; BMCRR Italy 233; Russo RBW 389

    Roman Republic AR Denarius(4.04g, 18mm). M·IVNI(Marcus Junius Silanus?) series, 145 B.C., Rome mint. Helmeted head of Roma right; behind, ass's head; before, X. Border of dots / Dioscuri galloping right; below, M·IVNI; in exergue, ROMA. Crawford 220/1
    From the Stevens family collection, formed during and shortly after the Second World War
  21. Limes

    Limes Supporter! Supporter

    A very nicely toned coin @Suarez. Overall, lovely coins posted.

    I have two denarii with a sort of golden toning in my collection. But overall I am more fond of the green stuff! A denarius and dupondius posted as examples.

    Gold for the emperor!

    Still deposits on the reverse. I dont intend to remove it though.
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