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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2940440, member: 24314"]You are throwing around a lot of claims and hearsay. Unfortunately, this kind of</p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> generates a lot of "action" and opinion and I guess that is a good thing of CT. Care to let us know your how you learned all of this? Are you capable of disputing the opinions of highly-paid, experienced professional graders? </p><p><br /></p><p>mrjason71, posted: "Yeah I bet its dipped too. <span style="color: #ff0000">Ok, based on what?</span> Thats the point. I think theres a ton of randomness in this. <span style="color: #ff0000">News Flash: Ever hear/read that grading is SUBJECTIVE? Do you want to take a guess at why this is so? Never mind, it's because there are too many variables coupled with uninformed collectors who never learned to grade! At least the professionals can usually get VERY CLOSE to agreement. That's why TPGS are necessary. Note, there are even services that watch them. </span>Im a skeptic/cynic at heart. <span style="color: #ff0000">Good, I am also. More like us is good for the hobby. </span>I've heard they have deals with dealers who submit a ton and they get better grades and coins through that I couldnt get through, etc. <span style="color: #ff0000">Very interesting. I've heard that in a few days a big, fat guy is going to break into my house and leave stuff for my nephews.</span> <span style="color: #ff0000">Do I need to write another example of this nonsense? Now, human nature being what it is, has any underhanded stuff gone on at a TPGS. ABSOLUTELY! The government went after one of them a while back. If what you say goes on every day, we all would know about it and it would be very bad for TPGS business.</span> I dont think it would be THAT hard for a TPG to have integrity. Judge each coin on its own merit regardless of where it comes from or what batch its in, etc. Integrity = less revenue though. This sort of stuff and that sham lawsuit and on and on...just a big scam. They have so many proponents with skin in the game that I think it never becomes clear to the coin collecting public at large what a scam it really is. <span style="color: #b300b3">You know what, <b>YOU JUST ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION</b> and it only came after four pages. <b>I</b> don't <b>think</b> you should use the TPGS and <b>I do know</b> that very few people care. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p><p><br /></p><p>They've even got Insider <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie50" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> singing their praises now. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie59" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <span style="color: #ff0000">Actually, the tune you cannot hear is me whistling "Dixie."</span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2940440, member: 24314"]You are throwing around a lot of claims and hearsay. Unfortunately, this kind of :yack::yack::bucktooth: generates a lot of "action" and opinion and I guess that is a good thing of CT. Care to let us know your how you learned all of this? Are you capable of disputing the opinions of highly-paid, experienced professional graders? mrjason71, posted: "Yeah I bet its dipped too. [COLOR=#ff0000]Ok, based on what?[/COLOR] Thats the point. I think theres a ton of randomness in this. [COLOR=#ff0000]News Flash: Ever hear/read that grading is SUBJECTIVE? Do you want to take a guess at why this is so? Never mind, it's because there are too many variables coupled with uninformed collectors who never learned to grade! At least the professionals can usually get VERY CLOSE to agreement. That's why TPGS are necessary. Note, there are even services that watch them. [/COLOR]Im a skeptic/cynic at heart. [COLOR=#ff0000]Good, I am also. More like us is good for the hobby. [/COLOR]I've heard they have deals with dealers who submit a ton and they get better grades and coins through that I couldnt get through, etc. [COLOR=#ff0000]Very interesting. I've heard that in a few days a big, fat guy is going to break into my house and leave stuff for my nephews.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]Do I need to write another example of this nonsense? Now, human nature being what it is, has any underhanded stuff gone on at a TPGS. ABSOLUTELY! The government went after one of them a while back. If what you say goes on every day, we all would know about it and it would be very bad for TPGS business.[/COLOR] I dont think it would be THAT hard for a TPG to have integrity. Judge each coin on its own merit regardless of where it comes from or what batch its in, etc. Integrity = less revenue though. This sort of stuff and that sham lawsuit and on and on...just a big scam. They have so many proponents with skin in the game that I think it never becomes clear to the coin collecting public at large what a scam it really is. [COLOR=#b300b3]You know what, [B]YOU JUST ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION[/B] and it only came after four pages. [B]I[/B] don't [B]think[/B] you should use the TPGS and [B]I do know[/B] that very few people care. :D[/COLOR] They've even got Insider :happy: singing their praises now. :joyful: [COLOR=#ff0000]Actually, the tune you cannot hear is me whistling "Dixie."[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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