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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 163562, member: 112"]My opinion is that the luster is subdued on the entire coin. Yes it still has luster, just about any coin in XF or better has luster. But luster has degrees, some coins just have more of it than others. A dipped coin will always have less luster than it had before it was dipped. Coin dips are acid and they remove luster. If coins are dipped properly then only a tiny bit of the luster is removed. If they are not dipped properly or they are dipped for too long or too many times - then more, or in some cases all of the luster, is removed.</p><p><br /></p><p>With your coin, there is not enough wear for the amount of luster that is missing to have worn off. So the only other way it can be removed is by dipping. Also, a coin of that age should have some signs of toning even if it was stored properly for all those years. Toning is inevitable, it cannot be stopped completely. It can be lessened however with proper storage. But your coin has no toning whatsoever. All it has are the dark spots. It is quite typical for a coin that was allowed to tone almost completely black and then dipped, to have those very same balck spots. For when toning is that deep and has been there that long, the only way to remove it is to dip the coin for too long a time period.</p><p><br /></p><p>But, most folks who dip coins like this know this. They know that if they dip the coin too long then all of the luster will be gone. And if the luster is gone then can't sell the coin for as they could otherwise. So they only dip it lightly, just enough to remove the vast majority of the dark toning, but not so much that it removes all of the luster. The end result is a coin that looks just like the one you posted - thes my opinion.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 163562, member: 112"]My opinion is that the luster is subdued on the entire coin. Yes it still has luster, just about any coin in XF or better has luster. But luster has degrees, some coins just have more of it than others. A dipped coin will always have less luster than it had before it was dipped. Coin dips are acid and they remove luster. If coins are dipped properly then only a tiny bit of the luster is removed. If they are not dipped properly or they are dipped for too long or too many times - then more, or in some cases all of the luster, is removed. With your coin, there is not enough wear for the amount of luster that is missing to have worn off. So the only other way it can be removed is by dipping. Also, a coin of that age should have some signs of toning even if it was stored properly for all those years. Toning is inevitable, it cannot be stopped completely. It can be lessened however with proper storage. But your coin has no toning whatsoever. All it has are the dark spots. It is quite typical for a coin that was allowed to tone almost completely black and then dipped, to have those very same balck spots. For when toning is that deep and has been there that long, the only way to remove it is to dip the coin for too long a time period. But, most folks who dip coins like this know this. They know that if they dip the coin too long then all of the luster will be gone. And if the luster is gone then can't sell the coin for as they could otherwise. So they only dip it lightly, just enough to remove the vast majority of the dark toning, but not so much that it removes all of the luster. The end result is a coin that looks just like the one you posted - thes my opinion.[/QUOTE]
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