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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Inspector43, Oct 19, 2020.

  1. Inspector43

    Inspector43 72 Year Collector

    I have a silver plated, Septimius Severus I believe, that retains about 50% of the plating. This is not a silver wash. It is a thick plating. I have shown it before, but I have taken some close up photos. You can see how thick the silver is.
    The first is Obv and Rev combined. The first set of 4 is obverse close ups and the second set of 4 is reverse close ups.
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  3. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @Inspector43, this is a fourree ...right? It would be cool if someone (you?) got into how late fourrees were still struck. It would put some interesting light on contemporary, official perceptions of the gradual debasement up to Gallienus.
    ...Bet I should look at your earlier post!
     
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  4. Inspector43

    Inspector43 72 Year Collector

    I am far from an expert but I understand that it is a Barbarous Fourree. This particular coin dates to AD 197 - 200.
     
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  5. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    ...Wow. Barbarous and a fourree. Especially this early, for a 'barbarous,' does that effectively mean, 'counterfeit'?
    You're cordially invited to give us a link to your earlier thread. I just did a quick look from your profile page, and nothing jumped out at me.
     
  6. Inspector43

    Inspector43 72 Year Collector

    Here is the link to my prior post.
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/could-this-be-ancient-silver.346948/
     
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  7. Inspector43

    Inspector43 72 Year Collector

    After finally finding my first post I see that I really didn't have to post this again. I didn't realize how much info I already had. But, I wanted to put up some close ups.
     
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  8. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    They never stopped being struck. Crooks have been stealing from the beginning and if they can find a way they'll be stealing after the end!
    I have a pretty dope Napoleon fouree. And that top 10 ATG general is far from ancient:
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    Fun and unique coin @Inspector43 :woot:
    If folks don't feel something special for fourees then I feel sorry. They either grew up with too much or truly are missing out on something larger than just a nitch with ancients. Some of the best dies ever (not that mine are those) were "repurposed" to make these beauties:
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  9. Inspector43

    Inspector43 72 Year Collector

    @Ryro I like them. They are rather rare but not classical enough for some. I have a couple of retrogrades that I am fond of also.
     
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  10. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    Are you asking ME to go backo_O
    Here's one from the very beginning of coinage!
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    Ionia. Ephesos
    circa 600-550 BC.
    1/48 Stater EL fourrée
    3mm., 0,15g.
    Lion's paw / Incuse punch.
    nearly very fine
    Karwiese series I / Type 1 (for prototype).

    And also winner of one of the smallest coins on CT!
    Like I said, from the beginning until the end.
    Don't ask me to dance if you're not wearing those blue suedes;).
     
  11. Inspector43

    Inspector43 72 Year Collector

    Here is a Probus with Quadriga on the reverse. This is also silver plated with the silver peeling off.
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    The thickness of silver is shown on this late version of the foil method fourree for Julia Domna. Closeups of details are fun. This one lost less silver but suffered more core erosion than the fourree of her husband shown so well by Inspector 43.
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  13. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    ...Gets to be a good enough reason...
     
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  14. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @Inspector43, First, it registers that you aren't in this camp. Except,
    ...Well, Fine, except, What could be more quintessentially Roman, hence, last I checked, Classical than a Julio-Claudian (or Flavian) retrograde legend?
    This is vaguely beyond the level of a rhetorical question. I'm Really not getting it. ...Thank you, we're talking about coins here, not extant monuments.
     
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  15. Roma

    Roma Active Member

    Hello @Inspector43 , it is a fouree Severus Alexander denarius, with precision this type but with a different legend break on obverse.
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  16. Inspector43

    Inspector43 72 Year Collector

    What does that mean "...not in this camp..."? I don't have the technical vocabulary to be in some camps, but, in the last 2 years I have made some progress. I try to be careful enough to not insult anyone.
     
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  17. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Sorry, more gratuituous ellipticality. Only the camp of people who don't consider (Julio-Claudian or Flavian) retrograde legends 'classical' enough.
    ...Apart from that, it's like, move backward, slowly, showing both hands....
     
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