One Helena beautiful coin: Helena-istic pile on

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  1. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    First, my latest acquisition:
    Collage_2020-10-23_12_31_42-removebg-preview~2.png oldmaster_constantine.jpg
    (Talk about a lady... look at those whiskers:hilarious:!!! Kidding, a hilarious attempt at lighting, we hope)

    Pop quiz!

    What do Pamela Voorhees, Edith Myers and Helena Augusta all have in common?
    They were all woman whom gave birth to evil men :mask:and later were turned into saints:angelic::

    (Hey, it's like a week until Halloween)

    Flavia Julia Helena was a Greek born of humble means, we're not even sure where she was born and before hooking up with Constantius Chlorox wipesus;) she is referred to as either a "stable-maid"/"inn-keeper" and it's even been hypothesized that she was a prostitute:kiss: (cool your jets fellas, salacious gossip about rich and famous people has been going on since, well, rich and famous people have been).
    The unknowns aside, once she became a consort/concubine of Constantius Chlorus it was life in the fast lanes as she would give birth to Constantine I and influence him enough to become a certified saint. There's even a story of her "finding the true cross"o_O
    She would outlive her John, Constantius, by almost a quarter century. Dying in 330 CE with Constantine by her side.

    (Here she sits in her favorite rocking chair. Well, ok. It didn't rock. But it WAS made of stone. And yes, it was cold the day she posed for this memorial statue:facepalm:)

    Augusta, AD 324-328/30. Æ Follis Heraclea mint, 2nd officina. Struck AD 329-330. Diademed and mantled bust right, wearing necklace / Securitas standing left, holding branch; SMHB·. RIC VII 85.

    This one always made me think that she looked like a turtle:lurking:
    AE Follis (Constantinople 337-341, posthumous issue, - Diademed and draped bust right / Pax standing left, holding branch and scepter (RIC 33 / C. 4)

    So please, post those coins of a Helena gal or whatever "saintly" things come to mind!
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Helena (324 - 330 A.D)
    O: FL HELENA AVGVSTA, Draped bust right.
    R: SECVRITAS-REIPVBLICE, Securitas standing left.
    Siscia Mint, 5th offcina
    RIC 218
  4. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    Great hairstyle and wonderful chocopatina! She has soooooo many variations on these coins
  5. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Supporter! Supporter

    Wow - wonderful coin! Fantastic details all around. That portrait - looks like she's judging everyone.. sort of like "you better be spending this on something christiany"!

    Here's my only Helena... the hair detail is quite nice but it's downhill after that.

  6. John Conduitt

    John Conduitt Well-Known Member

    The Helena I have is barbarous. You can pretty much only recognise her by her hair, which reminds me of a beaver tail...

    Helena/Constantinopolis barbarous hybrid, c340AD. Found in Britain. 13mm, 0.95g. CIHHO-O AIIG (reading right to left and facing outwards, AIIG is presumably meant to be AVG). Constantinopolis standing on a prow of a ship, holding sceptre and shield, ZPT (possibly TRS for Trier, again reading right to left)
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  7. Valentinian

    Valentinian Supporter! Supporter

    Here is a Helena AE3 from Heraclea, ex Knoblock collection, Stacks, May 1984.

    19 mm.
    SMHB in exergue
    RIC VII Heraclea 79 "325-6"

    The hairstyle is much different from that of the OP coin. She has quite a few (at least five) different hairstyles on coins.
  8. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    Again, VERY cool hair/headdress. And like my third coin shown, had that turtle neck with the neck hunching going on...
  9. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    Call me crazy, this is NOT my area *though after my dad gifted me some coins, I did start out learning ancients by identifying LRBs; but is that a Theodora??? Very desirable if it is:woot: and even if not a wonderful barbarous!!!:cigar:
  10. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..very nice coin!...ahaha...i LOVE these Ryro productions! ><
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  11. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    Lovely example! Great hair, big eyes and wonderful reverse! Vavavoom:artist:
  12. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer


    A.D. 318- 319
    18mm 3.1g
    HELENA N F; draped bust right.
    REV: eight rayed ✶ in laurel wreath.
    in ex. TSA
    RIC VII Thessalonica 48

  13. Shea19

    Shea19 Supporter! Supporter


    Helena, Treveri, 326 AD, (AE 19mm, 2.25g), Diademed and draped bust of Helena right/ Rev. Securitas standing facing, head l., holding branch, RIC 481
    From the Cardinal Meisner (1933-2017) Collection.
  14. Sulla80

    Sulla80 one coin at a time Supporter

    Nice Helena, @Ryro, I like the Treveri style of your coin and always enjoy your posts - Constantius Clorox! Here's my Heraclean Helena:
    Helena Follis.jpg Helena (306-330 AD), Hearclea, 326-327 AD.
    Obv: FL HELENA AVGVSTA, Bust of Helena, wearing necklace and mantle, right.
    Rev: SECVRITAS REIPVBLICE, Securitas standing left, lowering branch with right hand and raising robe with left, in exergue SMHЄ•
    Ref: RIC VII 85.
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  15. bcuda

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    My only Helena and not as nice as yours !

    324-325 AD.
    Æ Follis. 326 AD.
    diademed and draped bust
    Securitas standing left,
    holding branch in right
    Mintmark STR dot in crescent
    RIC VII 481; LRBC 35
  16. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Here's one from Nicomedia:

    Helena SECVRITAS REIPVBLICE Nicomedia Centenionalis.jpg
  17. cmezner

    cmezner Supporter! Supporter

    Didn't have a Helena, so at Frank's last auction I won this one, a very common Securitas, where she looks very funny, cartoonish. Every time I look at her, she makes me smile ;) :

    Æ3 Reduced Follis, Mysia, Cyzikus, 325 - 326 AD; officina Mark A
    3.378 g, 18 x 20 mm
    RIC VII, 39; Sear (4th edition) 3908;

    , Diademed, mantled, with necklace bust r./
    SECVRITAS REI PVBLICAE, Securitas standing l., lowering olive branch, raising hem of robe with right hand; Mintmark SMKA•

  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    I chuckled all the way through your post, @Ryro ! Great coin.

    (turbida terret imago - testudo graeca faciem tuam)

    RI Helena mother Constantine AE Follis Securitas Nicomedia mint 325-326 CE 19mm 3.3g RIC-95 Sear 16619
  19. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

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  20. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    My Helena:
    Rom – Helena, AE 3, Securitas, Nikomedia.jpg
    Helena, Roman Empire, AE3, 328–329 AD, Nicomedia mint. Obv: FL HELENA AVGVSTA; bust of Helena, wearing necklace and mantle, r. Rev: SECVRITAS REIBUBLICE; Securitas, draped, standing l., raising robe with r. hand and lowering branch with l. hand. 20mm, 3.99g. Ref: RIC VII Nicomedia 159. Ex JB collection, ex AMCC 2, lot 504.
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  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter


    delwedd aneglur - wyneb crwban = sumea kuva - kilpikonna kasvot
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