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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Volodya, post: 2792597, member: 19615&quot;]As others have noted but I want to stress, the point of Ken&#039;s query isn&#039;t whether the object in question is an R or something else; what matters is whether it&#039;s intentional at all. If it <i>is </i>intentional, it&#039;s a new, unlisted variety as this type has previously been known only with control marks on the obverse, under Apollo&#039;s chin. New varieties of RR denarii are certainly not unheard of, but the series is thoroughly catalogued and discoveries are anything but frequent. A long time ago, Dick Schaefer taught me something important: new discoveries require incontrovertible, unambiguous evidence to be fully accepted by scholars and knowledgeable collectors. This fails that test, because this surely <i>could </i>be a fortuitous die-break. It&#039;s unfortunate (though typical of the issue) that the obverse centering is such that a correctly placed obverse control mark, if present on the die, is off the flan on this example. I tend to think there really is something there--perhaps the engraver forgot to water his lunchtime wine and got confused--but that&#039;s really just one more opinion. Other examples of the reverse die might resolve this. Dick Schaefer&#039;s photo file might contain such examples, if someone cares to contact him.</p><p><br /></p><p>A side note to Valentinian: if I&#039;m understanding your point correctly, the extra metal &quot;just in front of the foremost rear leg&quot; is actually the left wheel of the quadriga.</p><p><br /></p><p>Phil Davis[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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