Once again in need for you help and this time a Valerian I

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  1. Hello all. once again i find myself in need for your help for this Valerian I coin here: val1.jpg val2.jpg

    I did some research on this coin and with the help of ERIC and RIC i have learnd that the closest coin to it is RIC VI 285 and in ERIC is Valerian I 7.
    how ever here is my problem: i have found that this coins appears everywhere with the obverse: CONCORDIA AVGVSTORVM while in my coin it says :IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG.
    This obverse only appears with other combinations and i can't find one that matches all the criteria.
    So which one is it? what did i miss?
    Thanks for your help.
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Your obverse inscription is type 1 in RIC:

    Capture 2.JPG

    And the corresponding coin is RIC 284, from the Antioch (Asia) mint:

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    RIC cross-references it to Cohen 153:

    Capture 1.JPG
     
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  4. Tanks a lot.
    now i know why i haven't found it as i don't actually have RIC's but i work more with ERIC and some other books. The price of buying all the RIC's is to high for me.
     
  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    You really are tying one hand behind your back when you insist on having catalog numbers without understanding the books they came from. "RIC VI 285" is a meaningless number but we all know you meant RIC V I 285. RIC VI begins with the currency reform of Diocletian; volume V was issued in two parts. I do not recommend buying RIC volume V which is outdated and incomplete compared to most volumes. Buying it would make it easier to find RIC numbers but add little else to the cause. I do not recommend ERIC II for any use. If he had left out all those pages of catalog numbers making the book a fraction of the size but including his good chapter heads and supplimentary material, I could say many nicer things about it.
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=65466.0
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/ericii.html
     
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  6. @dougsmit : i mainly use ERIC and :Roman base metal coins" and "Roman coins and their values" and also "Identifying roman coins". which are some help.
    can you recommend others to begin with?
     
  7. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    Very nice Valerian!
     
  8. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Good coin, thanks for sharing!
     
  9. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    I recommend the Internet. I love books and have many of them... but honestly the first and usually only place I go to identify a coin is the Internet.

    So yes, buy books! But if you are just starting out and cost is an issue, the Internet is sometimes the best resource.

    Helvetica’s RIC lists: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dane/

    Wildwinds: http://www.wildwinds.com/

    CoinProject: http://www.coinproject.com/

    Acsearch: https://www.acsearch.info/

    There are MANY others... these are just a few of the more wide ranging sites that can help with identification.
     
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  10. Tank you all for sharing
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I agree with Orange. I have many books that I love but more that I regret having purchased. I continue to buy books an I continue to make mistakes in their selection. In addition to the ones above, I suggest searching for similar coins sold by CNG (or other individual dealers) who give pricing information away for free while acsearch charges for it.
    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coins_sold.aspx

    There are many excellent website that cover a narrow specialty. One I like is the French 'new' RIC for 268-276 AD:
    http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/search/advanced
     
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  12. Great. Again many thanks.
     
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