On the rough side ...

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Sure, everyone likes it smooth ...

    ... like the middle bronze versions of these coins ...

    Faustina Sr VENERI AVGVSTAE S C lifetime dupondius.jpg
    Faustina Senior, AD 138-140.
    Roman orichalcum as or dupondius, 12.02 g, 28 mm, 5h.
    Rome, AD 139-140.
    Obv: FAVSTINA AVG ANTONINI AVG PII, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: VENERI AVGVSTAE S C, Venus, standing right, drawing drapery from right shoulder with right hand and holding apple in left hand.
    Refs: RIC 1097; BMCRE 1132; Cohen 283; Strack 1224; RCV 4685; Hill UCR 155.

    Faustina I, AD 138-140.
    Roman Æ as, 10.10 g, 27.1 mm, 11 h.
    Rome, AD 139-140.
    Obv: FAVSTINA AVG AN-TONINI AVG PII P P, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: IVNONI REGINAE S C, Juno standing left, holding patera and scepter; at her feet, peacock standing left, head right.
    Refs: RIC 1091; BMCRE 1129-1130; Cohen --; RCV --; Strack 1218; ERIC II 280.

    ... but sometimes you gotta go to the rough side of town ...

    ... to get what you need.

    Faustina I, AD 138-140.
    Roman orichalcum sestertius, 23.19 g, 33.5 mm, 12 h.
    Rome, AD 139-140.
    Obv: FAVSTINA AVG ANTONINI AVG PII P P, bust of Faustina I, draped, right.
    Rev: VENERI AVGVSTAE S C, Venus, standing right, drawing drapery from right shoulder with right hand and holding apple in left hand.
    Refs: RIC 1081; BMCRE 1120-22; Cohen 282; Strack 1224; RCV 4677; Hill UCR 146.

    Faustina I, AD 138-140.
    Roman orichalcum sestertius, 22.64 g, 32.6 mm, 5 h.
    Rome, AD 139-140.
    Obv: FAVSTINA AVG ANTONINI AVG PII P P, bust of Faustina I, draped, right.
    Rev: IVNONI REGINAE S C, Juno standing left, holding patera in right hand and vertical sceptre in left hand.
    Refs: RIC 1077a; BMCRE 1116; Cohen 216; Strack 1218; RCV 4675; Hill UCR 143.
    Post the coins you like despite their rough surfaces!
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  3. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    Sorry for the re-posting of this same coin, but it really fits the above request.
    I would like to be able to say it is "better in hand", but... the camera don't lie.
    Still, it is one of my top favorite coins in my collection. :)
  4. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    I guess both my Faustina Senior coins are on the rough side...

    FaustinaI AE.jpg
    Faustina Senior. Sestertius.

    Faustina Senior Bronze.jpg
    Faustina Senior. AE As.
  5. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    This was a gift from a friend, he found it with his metal detector in the Netherlands
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  6. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    I only posted it the other day, but I like it and it fits the bill, so here's my common RIC 475 Carausius

  7. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    I can think of a few coins of mine, off the top of my head, that have much rougher surfaces than I usually prefer, but whose virtues outweigh that drawback for me.

    Antoninus Pius:

    COMBINED Ant. Pius elephant, large.jpg

    Anonymous (115-114 BCE):

    Anonymous denarius (Roma seated) combined image 1.jpg


    Postumus COMBINED 2.jpg
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  8. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Constantius I, as Caesar, Æ Nummus. Treveri, AD 298-299. FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB C, laureate bust left / GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius, towered and nude to waist, standing facing, head turned left, holding cornucopiae with his left hand, patera in his right hand; B- gamma across fields, TR in exergue. RIC 196 but not with B gamma.

    Delmatius, AE follis. Siscia. AD 335-337. FL DELMATIVS NOB C, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right / GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS, two soldiers holding spears and shields with one standard between them with O on banner. Mintmark: ASIS star. RIC VII Siscia 266; Sear 16895.

    From my first lot of ancient coins. Not common and despite the bad shape, I like them. The Delmatius coin is better in hand - my photographic skills are what they are.

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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter


    Makedon Philip II 359-336 BC AE 17 Apollo - Horse Rider RIGHT-LEFT facing

    RI Caracalla 198-217 AR Quinarius CE 213 1.3g 13.6mm Laureate - Victory Wreath Palm RIC IV 101 RSC 450 RARE
  10. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    London ADVENTVS issues for Constantine are pricey, so I'm happy to have this example (with a particularly rare legend to boot), acquired from the inestimable @Victor_Clark:

    constantine ADVENTVS lon.jpg
    Issued when Constantine visited Britain to recruit for his showdown with Maxentius.
  11. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    You mean like most of mine? Here are some new provincial pickups.

    Smyrna3.jpg Ionia, Smyrna. Tranquillina AE22 Diassarion. Herakles
    Obv: ΦOYΡI TΡANKYIΛΛEINA C, draped bust right, wearing stephane.
    Rev: CMYΡNAIΩN Γ NEΩKOΡΩN, Herakles, naked, standing left, holding kantharos, lion-skin and club.
    241-244 AD.

    colybrassos.jpg Cilicia, Colybrassus. Trebonianus Gallus AE22.
    Obv: AYTKRA KAI Γ ΛOY TΡE ΓAΛΛON CB, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: KOΛYBΡACCEΩN, Athena, helmeted, walking left, looking right, holding patera and transverse spear.

    HierapolisEphesos.jpg Phrygia, Hierapolis. Alliance with Ephesus. AE23.
    Obv: ΛΑΙΡΒΗΝΟϹ, Radiate and draped bust of Apollo Lairbenos, r.

    Aphrodisias.jpg Caria, Aphrodisias. Senate / Prize crown AE26
    Obv: IEΡA CYNKΛHTOC. Diademed and draped bust of the Senate right.
    Rev: AΦΡOΔEICIEΩN, Prize crown inscribed ΓOΡΔIANHA, with palm branch on table with lions' feet, ATTAΛHA in three lines between two purses below.
    ca. 238 - 249.
  12. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Most of mine have rough surfaces, though I like them all :)

    Just a few, terrible ones:

    Æ As,
    Rome, 6 BC, Aulius Licinius Nerva Silianus moneyer
    24 x 25 mm, 13.127 g
    RIC I 437; CBN 717;

    Ob.: CAESAR•AVGVST•PONT•MAX•TRIBVN - IC•POT• Bare head right
    Rev.: (A•LICIN•NE)RVA•SILIAN•III•VIR•A•A•A•F•F around large S•C
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    Æ Dupondius, Rome, 22 - 26 AD
    RIC 79; Cohen 252;
    29 mm, 13.251 g

    Ob.: DIVVS•AVGVSTVS•PATER• radiate head of Augustus left
    Rev.: S•C in oak wreath
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    Denarius, Rome December 161 - December 162 AD, struck under the authority of Marcus Aurelius

    16 x 17 mm, 3.156 g
    RIC III Marcus Aurelius 482; Cohen 155;

    Ob.: IMP L AVREL VERVS AVG Head of Lucius Verus, bare, right
    Rev.: PROV – DEOR TR P II COS II Providentia standing l., holding globe on extended right hand and cornucopiae in left
    upload_2021-3-9_18-54-18.png upload_2021-3-9_18-54-30.png
  13. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Supporter! Supporter

    A recent addition that is on the rough side....

    MARCUS ANTONIUS (Marc Antony) AR silver Triumvirate issue denarius. CAESAR IMP PONT III VIR R P C, bare head of Octavian right. Reverse - M ANT IMP AVG (MP and AV both in monogram) III VIR R P C M BARBAT Q P, bare head of Antony right. Struck at Ephesus mint, Spring - Summer 41 BC

  14. robinjojo

    robinjojo Supporter! Supporter

    I like to think of rough surfaces as a "super mat/sand blaster finish".

    Two Faustina flavors here:

    Worn and rough:
    D-Camera Faustina Junior sestertius, eBay lot.1,  8-21-20.jpg

    Worn, pretty rough:

    D-Camera Faustina II reshoot sestertius Rome Juno Standing 161-176 AD RIC 1685  20.6g 3-8-21.jpg
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  15. Zebucatt

    Zebucatt Well-Known Member

    Here's my journey to the rough side.

    Julia Mamaea AE As, 227AD, 24mm, 5.36g, Rome
    Bust of Julia Mamaea, diademed, draped, right
    Rev: VESTA S C
    Vesta, draped, standing left, holding Pantera in right hand and transverse spear in left hand
    Ref: RIC 711, Sears 8251

    Next has had a real rough life.

    Trajan AE dupondius, 113AD, 27mm, 13.3g Rome 19th issue
    Radiate head right
    Arabia standing facing, holding branch and cinnamon sticks; camel to left.
    Ref: RIC 613, UCR 588
  16. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    One of my roughest is this neat Elagabalus, which would be worth a good amount if it the surfaces weren't so awful
    Elagabalus Radiate Nikopolis Nemesis (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
  17. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Supporter! Supporter

    Too rough for many collectors - but this is really one of my favorite sestertii..
    large chunk of brass that feels great in hand... I really like the portrait, the wear is nice as well as the colouring...

    TRAJAN AE orichalcum sestertius.
    OBV: IMP CAES NERVAE TRAIANO AVG GER DAC PM TRP COS V P P, Laureate head right, slight drapery on far shoulder.
    REV: SPQR OPTIMO PRINCIPI, SC in ex, Victory standing left, holding palm branch and erecting trophy; shields at base.
    32mm, 23.6g Struck 104-107 CE
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  18. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I enjoyed this thread - one of the interesting things to me about ancients is what happens to these coins over time. So many surfaces are possible. With my collection being "budget" I have quite a few varieties of ugly.

    This one just came in an eBay lot. It is a bit strange - the portrait and the standing prince on the back are fairly unmolested and smooth, but the fields look like hamburger.

    Philip II - As IVVENT PRIN lot Mar 2021 (0).jpg
    Philip II Æ As
    (244-246 A.D.)
    Rome Mint

    [M I]VL [PHILIP]PVS [CAES], bare headed, draped & cuirassed bust right / [PRINCIPI I]VVE[NTVTIS], prince standing left holding globe and vertical spear.
    RIC 256b; Cohen 50;
    (10.29 grams / 25 mm)
  19. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    I'd like to dedicate this song to Philip II ...
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  20. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    This one probably experienced lots of use.
    I would imagine people buying bread with this coin back then...
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