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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 8238165, member: 110350"]I've always thought that porphyry statue is gorgeous, [USER=87200]@ancient coin hunter[/USER]. I wonder if anyone has tried to figure out which pair of tetrarchs is which in the statue. Although I guess part of the point was to portray the two pairs and four individuals as looking basically alike (as [USER=128351]@GinoLR[/USER] points out).</p><p><br /></p><p>I have recently posted my five Diocletian coins in another thread (see <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/february-23rd-diocletians%E2%80%99s-shameful-day.393457/page-2#post-8227910" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/february-23rd-diocletians%E2%80%99s-shameful-day.393457/page-2#post-8227910">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/february-23rd-diocletians’s-shameful-day.393457/page-2#post-8227910</a>), so I'll limit myself here to these two:</p><p><br /></p><p>Diocletian, silvered AE Follis [Nummus?], 294-295 AD, Nicomedia Mint. Obv. Laureate head right, IMP CC VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG/ Rev. Genius standing left, pouring out patera & holding cornucopiae, GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, mintmark SMN (Nicomedia). RIC VI 27a p. 556), Sear RCV IV 12788, ERIC II 539, Cohen 106. 27.8 mm., 8.6 g.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/diocletian-silvered-follis-combined-jpg.1438229/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Diocletian, AR Argenteus, ca. AD 295, Heraclea Mint (1st Officina). Obv. Laureate head right, DIOCLETI-ANVS AVG / Rev. The four tetrarchs [the Augusti Diocletian and Maximian, and the Caesars Constantius Chlorus and Galerius], draped, sacrificing over a tripod altar, two of them on each side, before military camp gate with six turrets (four in front and two in rear), VICTORIA-SARMAT [referring to victories over the Sarmatians*]; in exergue, H A [Heraclea, 1st Officina]. RIC VI Heraclea 6 [see <a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.6.her.6" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.6.her.6" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.6.her.6</a>], RSC V Diocletian 488j, Sear RCV IV 12612. <i>Purchased from Kenneth W. Dorney, Oct. 2021. Ex. Ira & Larry Goldberg Auction 90, 2 Feb. 2016, Lot 3274</i>. 19 mm., 2.70 g.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/diocletian-argenteus-ken-dorney-heraclea-ric-6-jpg.1438226/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>*See Stephen Williams, <i>Diocletian and the Roman Recovery</i> (Routledge, 2000) at p. 76 (preview at Google Books): “In 294 Diocletian launced a fresh offensive against the main body of the Sarmatians. . . . By the latter half of 294 they [the Sarmatians] had sustained such a defeat that they ceased to be a threat for many more years. Sarmatian warriors were taken into the Roman armies in large numbers, either as mercenaries or under treaty, and later fought well under Galerius against the Persians.”</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are the three other tetrarchs of that tetrarchy (although the only coin I have of Galerius is a later one from when he was Augustus):</p><p><br /></p><p>Maximian, silvered AE Follis [Nummus?], 297-98 AD, Heraclea Mint (1st Officina). Obv. Laureate head right, IMP C MA MAXIMIANVS PF AVG / Rev. Genius standing left holding cornucopiae in left hand and pouring libation from patera in right hand, GENIO POPVLI ROMANI; HTA in exergue. RIC V-2 Heraclea 19b, Sear RCV IV 13265. 28 mm., 10.26 g.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449675[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Constantius I Chlorus Caesar (father of Constantine I), Billon Follis [Nummus?], 296-297 AD, Heraclea Mint (3rd Officina). Obv. Laureate head right, FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES / Rev. Genius wearing modius on head, standing left, nude, chlamys draped over left shoulder, holding cornucopiae in left hand and pouring libation from patera in right hand, GENIO POPV-L-I ROMANI; mintmark HT Γ[gamma] [Γ= 3rd Officina] in exergue. RIC VI Heraclea 18a (p. 531), Sear RCV IV 14061. 29 mm., 9.91 g.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449676[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Galerius, AE Follis [Nummus?], 305-306 AD, Cyzicus Mint (4th Officina). Obv. Laureate head right, IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS P F AVG/ Rev. Genius, wearing modius on head, nude, chlamys draped over left shoulder, standing left, holding cornucopiae in left hand and pouring libation from patera in right hand, GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI; mintmark K Δ [K = Cyzicus, Delta = 4th Officina] in exergue. RIC VI Cyzicus 21b & 25a (pp. 582, 584), Sear RCV IV 14546, Cohen 81. 27.8 mm., 9.65 g. 12 h. <i>Ex. Giovanni Dattari Collection (before 1923); Ex. Jesus Vico 2018.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1449677[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Each large follis/nummus of the four is between 27.8 and 29 mm. in diameter.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 8238165, member: 110350"]I've always thought that porphyry statue is gorgeous, [USER=87200]@ancient coin hunter[/USER]. I wonder if anyone has tried to figure out which pair of tetrarchs is which in the statue. Although I guess part of the point was to portray the two pairs and four individuals as looking basically alike (as [USER=128351]@GinoLR[/USER] points out). I have recently posted my five Diocletian coins in another thread (see [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/february-23rd-diocletians%E2%80%99s-shameful-day.393457/page-2#post-8227910']https://www.cointalk.com/threads/february-23rd-diocletians’s-shameful-day.393457/page-2#post-8227910[/URL]), so I'll limit myself here to these two: Diocletian, silvered AE Follis [Nummus?], 294-295 AD, Nicomedia Mint. Obv. Laureate head right, IMP CC VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG/ Rev. Genius standing left, pouring out patera & holding cornucopiae, GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, mintmark SMN (Nicomedia). RIC VI 27a p. 556), Sear RCV IV 12788, ERIC II 539, Cohen 106. 27.8 mm., 8.6 g. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/diocletian-silvered-follis-combined-jpg.1438229/[/IMG] Diocletian, AR Argenteus, ca. AD 295, Heraclea Mint (1st Officina). Obv. Laureate head right, DIOCLETI-ANVS AVG / Rev. The four tetrarchs [the Augusti Diocletian and Maximian, and the Caesars Constantius Chlorus and Galerius], draped, sacrificing over a tripod altar, two of them on each side, before military camp gate with six turrets (four in front and two in rear), VICTORIA-SARMAT [referring to victories over the Sarmatians*]; in exergue, H A [Heraclea, 1st Officina]. RIC VI Heraclea 6 [see [URL]http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.6.her.6[/URL]], RSC V Diocletian 488j, Sear RCV IV 12612. [I]Purchased from Kenneth W. Dorney, Oct. 2021. Ex. Ira & Larry Goldberg Auction 90, 2 Feb. 2016, Lot 3274[/I]. 19 mm., 2.70 g. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/diocletian-argenteus-ken-dorney-heraclea-ric-6-jpg.1438226/[/IMG] *See Stephen Williams, [I]Diocletian and the Roman Recovery[/I] (Routledge, 2000) at p. 76 (preview at Google Books): “In 294 Diocletian launced a fresh offensive against the main body of the Sarmatians. . . . By the latter half of 294 they [the Sarmatians] had sustained such a defeat that they ceased to be a threat for many more years. Sarmatian warriors were taken into the Roman armies in large numbers, either as mercenaries or under treaty, and later fought well under Galerius against the Persians.” Here are the three other tetrarchs of that tetrarchy (although the only coin I have of Galerius is a later one from when he was Augustus): Maximian, silvered AE Follis [Nummus?], 297-98 AD, Heraclea Mint (1st Officina). Obv. Laureate head right, IMP C MA MAXIMIANVS PF AVG / Rev. Genius standing left holding cornucopiae in left hand and pouring libation from patera in right hand, GENIO POPVLI ROMANI; HTA in exergue. RIC V-2 Heraclea 19b, Sear RCV IV 13265. 28 mm., 10.26 g. [ATTACH=full]1449675[/ATTACH] Constantius I Chlorus Caesar (father of Constantine I), Billon Follis [Nummus?], 296-297 AD, Heraclea Mint (3rd Officina). Obv. Laureate head right, FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES / Rev. Genius wearing modius on head, standing left, nude, chlamys draped over left shoulder, holding cornucopiae in left hand and pouring libation from patera in right hand, GENIO POPV-L-I ROMANI; mintmark HT Γ[gamma] [Γ= 3rd Officina] in exergue. RIC VI Heraclea 18a (p. 531), Sear RCV IV 14061. 29 mm., 9.91 g. [ATTACH=full]1449676[/ATTACH] Galerius, AE Follis [Nummus?], 305-306 AD, Cyzicus Mint (4th Officina). Obv. Laureate head right, IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS P F AVG/ Rev. Genius, wearing modius on head, nude, chlamys draped over left shoulder, standing left, holding cornucopiae in left hand and pouring libation from patera in right hand, GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI; mintmark K Δ [K = Cyzicus, Delta = 4th Officina] in exergue. RIC VI Cyzicus 21b & 25a (pp. 582, 584), Sear RCV IV 14546, Cohen 81. 27.8 mm., 9.65 g. 12 h. [I]Ex. Giovanni Dattari Collection (before 1923); Ex. Jesus Vico 2018.[/I] [ATTACH=full]1449677[/ATTACH] Each large follis/nummus of the four is between 27.8 and 29 mm. in diameter.[/QUOTE]
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