Message:

<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Gallienus, post: 3879221, member: 42034&quot;]Around 1982 I bought a US 1909-P $10 Indian at a semi-big coin show in New Jersey.&nbsp; About 10 years later I was buying type coins for my US collection and I showed the coin to a major dealer: Clark A. Samuelson of US Coins (Houston, TX).&nbsp; I bought quite a few coins from Clark and he told me that my $10 Indian was definitely an Omega counterfeit.&nbsp; Clark passed away since then and I don&#039;t have the 1981 dealer contact.&nbsp; I&#039;ve looked at some posts others have made about counterfeit $10 golds and decided that if mine is counterfeit it&#039;s a pretty good one.</p><p><br /></p><p>It has some characteristics of a good coin.&nbsp; It has 46 stars on the edge (correct for the 1907-1911 issues), the edge design was applied with 3 partitions (also correct) breaking at 6:00, 10:00, 2:00 (measured from the reverse), or 12:00, 4:00, 8:00 (obv).&nbsp; The weight according to a very good analytical balance (ohaus)&nbsp; was 16.754g although I think the balance is a little hi &amp; needs calibration.&nbsp; The correct weight is 16.718g although .001 gram accuracy is difficult to get even with the wind shield.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some photographs follow.&nbsp; I took at least 15 photos with a Sony NEX6, set to manual focus (auto-focus is hopeless) to get these two but I can do better as I also have a photo camera mount.&nbsp; These were done by hand.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://coinsandhistory.com/pix_shared/pix_cointalk/USA_10D_1909P_both_2000px.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://coinsandhistory.com/pix_shared/pix_cointalk/USA_10D_1909P_edge_9x600.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>A diagnostic of the Omega counterfeits is an Omega symbol in one of the letters of &quot;Liberty&quot; often the &quot;R&quot;.&nbsp; This coin has something there but even looking at it with a German 9X hastings triplet I can&#039;t pick out any Omega symbol.&nbsp; Also a few slabbed 1909 Indian in 63 or 64 grades I looked at from HA had &quot;not a completely clear field&quot; inside the R of Liberty: similar to mine.</p><p><br /></p><p>So is this an Omega counterfeit?&nbsp; Is it a regular counterfeit?&nbsp; Is it genuine?&nbsp; In answer to the obvious, yes I do have &quot;a few&quot; $10 golds unslabbed, some bought from Stack&#039;s auctions back in the 80&#039;s before anyone heard of slabbing coins.&nbsp; Others were bought at coin shops in the NE back in the days.&nbsp; I&#039;ve only submitted two coins to the grading services.&nbsp; One was a suspected counterfeit in a PF-64 holder which was confirmed &amp; I got a refund.&nbsp; The other piece was a Morgan $ which came back as a 64 but it was not the coin we sent in.&nbsp; If interested I can try to get better photos of this 1909 Indian $10.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

Your name or email address:

Do you already have an account?

• No, create an account now.
• Yes, my password is:
• Forgot your password?

Stay logged in