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<p>[QUOTE="pprp, post: 7299269, member: 94602"]Of course auctioneers and bidding or advertising platforms have made up the terms in their favour, conveniently excluding themselves of liability for any possibility one may imagine. Terms that are demonstrably illegal are of course void even if the user has agreed to them by using the service. It very much reminds me the case of websites indexing illegal torrents who claimed they were only the technical means, they did not own the material they could not be liable. Of course after a couple of years they were all shut down and/or got in jail. Let's also not forget the story of Dr. Weiss:</p><p><br /></p><p><i>According to the criminal complaint, he was caught on tape telling a police informant that he knew the coins had been recently looted in Sicily: “There’s no paperwork, I know this is a fresh coin, this was dug up a few years ago.” In July, Weiss pleaded guilty to three counts of attempted criminal possession of ancient coins. It turned out the “looted” coins were clever forgeries.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>He was then obliged to write an essay published by ANS, which included:</p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>“Dealers and collectors with any reasonable experience can tell that such a simultaneous offering just does not happen naturally, except after a recent hoard of coins has been found and dispersed into the marketplace….The purchase of coins that derive from hoards is likely to be illegal and detrimental to scholarship, and these might be reasons enough for the buyer to be aware.”</i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="pprp, post: 7299269, member: 94602"]Of course auctioneers and bidding or advertising platforms have made up the terms in their favour, conveniently excluding themselves of liability for any possibility one may imagine. Terms that are demonstrably illegal are of course void even if the user has agreed to them by using the service. It very much reminds me the case of websites indexing illegal torrents who claimed they were only the technical means, they did not own the material they could not be liable. Of course after a couple of years they were all shut down and/or got in jail. Let's also not forget the story of Dr. Weiss: [I]According to the criminal complaint, he was caught on tape telling a police informant that he knew the coins had been recently looted in Sicily: “There’s no paperwork, I know this is a fresh coin, this was dug up a few years ago.” In July, Weiss pleaded guilty to three counts of attempted criminal possession of ancient coins. It turned out the “looted” coins were clever forgeries. [/I] He was then obliged to write an essay published by ANS, which included: [I] “Dealers and collectors with any reasonable experience can tell that such a simultaneous offering just does not happen naturally, except after a recent hoard of coins has been found and dispersed into the marketplace….The purchase of coins that derive from hoards is likely to be illegal and detrimental to scholarship, and these might be reasons enough for the buyer to be aware.”[/I][/QUOTE]
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