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<p>[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 7466087, member: 10461"]The legitimate Morgan patterns from the 19th century are indeed elusive and expensive. Like four-figure expensive, if not five- or maybe even six-figures in a few cases.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are a number of modern fantasies which mimic the old Morgan "Schoolgirl" and other designs which are far more affordable. But if you had one of those dated “1875”, you couldn't claim it as <i>really</i> being from 1875, let alone the "oldest known" coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>I challenge anyone to show me a legitimate 19th century US pattern coin (i.e., recognized in the Judd reference) that could be acquired for less than four figures. Not counting private pattern stuff like the <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/united-states-new-york-nickel-silver-private-pattern-cent-feuchtwangers-composition-1837.362361/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/united-states-new-york-nickel-silver-private-pattern-cent-feuchtwangers-composition-1837.362361/">Feuchtwanger</a> issues, which are considered more tokens than patterns nowadays.</p><p><br /></p><p>With <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/france-bronze-essai-5-centimes-pattern-by-barre-of-louis-phillipe-i-1840.371416/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/france-bronze-essai-5-centimes-pattern-by-barre-of-louis-phillipe-i-1840.371416/">World</a> coins, on the other hand, patterns can be much more affordable.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 7466087, member: 10461"]The legitimate Morgan patterns from the 19th century are indeed elusive and expensive. Like four-figure expensive, if not five- or maybe even six-figures in a few cases. There are a number of modern fantasies which mimic the old Morgan "Schoolgirl" and other designs which are far more affordable. But if you had one of those dated “1875”, you couldn't claim it as [I]really[/I] being from 1875, let alone the "oldest known" coin. I challenge anyone to show me a legitimate 19th century US pattern coin (i.e., recognized in the Judd reference) that could be acquired for less than four figures. Not counting private pattern stuff like the [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/united-states-new-york-nickel-silver-private-pattern-cent-feuchtwangers-composition-1837.362361/']Feuchtwanger[/URL] issues, which are considered more tokens than patterns nowadays. With [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/france-bronze-essai-5-centimes-pattern-by-barre-of-louis-phillipe-i-1840.371416/']World[/URL] coins, on the other hand, patterns can be much more affordable.[/QUOTE]
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