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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;talshiarr, post: 2077239, member: 3958&quot;]Guilty as charged, and your mail was what prompted the reply here <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. Thanks for the comments, and regarding the weights seeming light, they can vary a lot from coin to coin but 1.65g for a 25 mm continental hammered coin is not unusually so. A bracteate of that diameter is often under 1 gram.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1484 half-guldiners are a bit rarer than their 1486 full counterparts and they don&#039;t seem to be as heavily traded, but the prices can be much, much lower. The 1486s are famous just for being the first thalers. I think the cheapest I&#039;ve ever seen a 1484 go for was around $800, but it was badly worn. You can still get lucky and snag one for under $2k, though. Hess-Divo sold one last October that only reached around €1,000. The more expensive ones are usually a rare variant or really good, clear strikes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Re: the turnose-groschens, the name comes from their imitation of the form of the French gros tournois of Tours with the short cross and dual ringed legend on the reverse. They can be listed as just groschens, turnosgroschens, etc. Someone wrote a really nice page about them here: <a href="http://currencies.wikia.com/wiki/Aachen_1_groschen_coin" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://currencies.wikia.com/wiki/Aachen_1_groschen_coin" rel="nofollow">http://currencies.wikia.com/wiki/Aachen_1_groschen_coin</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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