Oldest coin & Oldest Artifact

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  1. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    haha! well...let's c'em ><
     
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  3. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    just an fyi for scarab collectors. Schwaller de Lubicz first noticed and explained in his writings and studies of ancient Egypt how the scarab on one level depicts the development of the human skull as part of the drama of the metamorphosis of consciousness and the divine. Always thought this was spectacular.[​IMG]
     
  4. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..ain't it dated?!?...:rolleyes:(jk)
     
  5. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..that's interesting, but the damn bug is a poop eater and live inna turd! :muted:
     
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  6. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    yeah- that's part of what awed these ancients- the little animals layed their eggs in the lowest matter of creation-dung, and worked these into spheres rolling them along with great dexterity. As their deity khepera- the morning sun god rolled along seemingly just springing up out of the darkest matter of the underworld night. They put them on the mummies heart to ensure magical transformation and freedom of the heart soul to the highest heavens.
     
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    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

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  8. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..very nice D Ray...i've had and gave a lot of these "old believers" crosses..i've still got in my collection a male and female example..this female cross is the largest i've ever seen.. OLD CROSSES 004.JPG female old believers cross  shewolf coin 001.JPG
     
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  9. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    yup!..alot of their ideas were copied by later religions..did you know that "Amen" comes from their chant of Amun (AH moon)?
     
  10. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Never heard that before from a serious entomologist.
    Amen: so be it or so let it be from Hebrew/Aramaic and other semitic languages.
     
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  11. ominus1

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  12. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Great topic,

    interesting stuff
    140-240 AD Brittisch trumpet headed brooche13 viewsReference.
    Hattatt 87

    9.62 gr
    48 x 14 mm

    Legionaire fibula Britse trompetkopfibula (disc and trumpet) ref. Hattatt 140-240 na Chr..jpg

    THRACE Mesembria AR Diobol 450-35012 viewsReference.
    Sear 1673; BMC 3.132.2; SNG Cop. 652

    Obv.: no legend
    Facing Corinthian helmet

    Rev: META.
    Four spoked wheel.

    1.31 gr
    290 P Trace Mesembria BMC.jpg
     
  13. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Awesome stuff all!
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    Ionia, Miletos
    AR
    6th century BC
    Lion right, roaring head turned back left/ star and pellets

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    Egypt, New Kingdom, 16th - 11th Century BC
    Blue faience scarab measuring 27mm. Intact with a nice blue color, simple incised details, blank base.



    My oldest item.
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    Allende meteorite
    Allende contains chondrules and CAIs that are estimated to be 4.567 billion years old.
     
  14. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Very interesting. Reminds me of these:
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  15. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    What a fun thread! And some really nice items being shown here:happy:

    My oldest artifact, a cuneiform tablet from Ur III, c. 2112 BC – c. 2004 BC.
    Brown clay tablet with seven lines of text. 42 x 25 mm. Text is commercial receipt. Chip on one face, else intact and choice. ex. Reeve collection ca 1960. With transcribed text.
    Cuneiform tablet Ur III.png


    My oldest coin is a late 6th to 4th century BC AE Ramo Secco cast ingot from Central Italy. Fragment generally weigh from 500 grams to 2000 grams.
    ramo secco obv 2.jpg

    AE. g. 1084.00 RR. C. mm. 101 x 70 x 41
    Heavy dark-green patina with minor earthen-brown highlights
    Reference: V&T AS 1, ICC 3.2
     

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  16. SeptimusT

    SeptimusT Well-Known Member

    Here's a Morrow Mountain type point, made of quartz, found in the southeastern US, which dates to about ~4000 BC, give or take a millennium.

    IMG_8045 copy.JPG

    My oldest coin is this tiny AR from Kyzikos... hard to photograph, it's so tiny. After ~480 BC.

    Kyzikos copy.png

    And just for fun, here's a little display I've put together on my (cheap) desk with some neat items, and room for more. The other side of my desk has natural curiosities, along with some American pieces.

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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Since a few Fossils are making the Thread, I have a couple, and I also have a question that I need some help:

    FOSSILS: (are these reasonably correct attributes?)

    My wife dug these out on her recent Utah trip with one of our Granddaughters...
    Trilobite ex rock Pre-Cambrian 521M-252M BCE  25x34x4mm Utah USA.jpg
    Trilobite ex rock Pre-Cambrian thru Devonian 521M-252M BCE 25x34x4mm Utah USA

    Trilobite in rock Pre-Cambrian thru Devonian 521M-252M BCE  33x42mm Utah USA.JPG
    Trilobite in rock Pre-Cambrian thru Devonian 521M-252M BCE 33x42mm Utah USA

    Wife dug out in Wyoming during trip with one of our Daughters
    Fossil Diplomystus Dentatus Fish 53.5M-48.5M BCE 37mm x 10mm Green River Formation Wyoming USA.JPG
    Fossil Diplomystus Dentatus Fish 53.5M-48.5M BCE 37mm x 10mm Green River Formation Wyoming USA



    QUESTION to the Meteorite folks: What type of meteorite is this? We lost the accompanying information. EDIT: ERIN ANSWERED!

    Meteorite 22x13mm 3.6g.jpg

    Meteorite - Moldavite 22x13mm 3.6g
     
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  18. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Looks like a tektite, maybe, from the impact from a meteorite. I haven't got a sweet clue.

    Totally jealous of those fossils.

    Good job, everyone!

    Erin
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Me looking up Tektite made me REMEMBER. In the Tektite article, they spoke about comparing Tektite to Moldavite... And, now I remember, this is MOLDAVITE.

    Thanks for the memory prompt Erin! :D
     
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  20. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    My Roman Republics got knocked off the list for oldest coin when I got this unsold AE17 from a JA auction: IMG_0482.JPG IMG_0483.JPG Phoencica, Arados
    2.4g 242/1-167/6BC
    Obv: Turreted head of Tyche right
    Rev: Athena standing left on prow of galley left; monogram to upper right
    Duyrat 1374-1403
    HGC 10,861

    Some ancient glass from Ken Dorney IMG_0814.JPG maybe 200-300AD?
     
  21. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    No prob!

    I really like meteorites too. So, I've learned a few things about them over the years. :D

    Erin
     
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