OLD Conder Token I Think??? Any Help??

I love the "End of Pain" and / or "wrongs of man" Hanging man Issues...a hanging man was rather common for Conders which I always found odd...such grim down to earth subjects like that...




A beggar (thought to represent england debt)



George III and an ass head issued by a seller of slop



End of Oppression / After the Revolution half penny


Some of the Wilkinson Iron Master coins are rather rare like this one:



this one not so much:

 

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Drusus,you've given me a great idea for a topic thread.

Aidan.

 

Some lovely tokens there :thumb: :thumb: I do have a decent Druids head with a Harp on the rev but fotr the life of me I cant find the darn thing LOL it is not with my other Tokens!!

De Orc

 

Here is a little more information on the token from the original thread.

As stated it was issued by William Lutwyche of Birmingham in Warwickshire England. The Reverse die was Lutwyche's personal die used for his own advertisment. The obverse die was meant to commemorate King George III's return to health from one of his periodic bouts of madness. (Eventually the Kings sanity left him completely and his son George IV governed as regent during about the last ten years of his life until George III's death in 1820. At which point George IV assended to the throne.)

The dies for the token were engraved by Noel-Alexandre Ponthon who worked at the Soho Mint in Birmingham. The mintage was about 103,000 pieces. The obverse die was also muled with two different patriotic dies and issued for general circulation

I'm not sure if that is George II or not. I think the image had a different specific poliical meaning but I haven't been able to find a reference to it. The slopseller was James Spence the brother of Thomas Spence the political rabble rouser, supporter of Thomas Paine, and issuer of many tokens. He produced twenty different tokens for his brother muling his obverse with dies that Thomas had used for his own tokens.

The hanging man was normally used to represent Thomas Paine or in the case of three men, the three Thomases, Thomas Paine, Thomas Spence, and Thomas Hardy. They were advocates for social reform and supporters of the revolution going on in France. They advocated the import of some of its ideas to ingland including the overthrow of the Monarchy. They were tried on several cases for sedition and High Treason. They were acquited on more than one occasion but the sentiment of many of the people was more along the lines of what was pictured on the tokens. It eventually became to "hot" for Paine and he eventually had to flee to France. (Where he finally got into trouble with the French and had to flee from France as well.)

 

Conder101, I have some conders I would like to post for you to look at, you seem to have a lot of knowledge concerning these (or have a lot of resources) and I like to get as much info as I can about every coin I post to my site (Conders and Ancients most of all). I will start a new thread and not hijack this one any further I would love to hear any further info you might be able to give me concerning them.