Old but not Ancient (7 coins, 2 need ID help)

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by The Eidolon, Jan 18, 2020.

  1. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Got these 7 coins from a bag of unidentified coins labeled "Old but not Ancient" at a local coin shop. (My 15-year-old waggishly said the same description could apply to me.)
    I think I've figured out 5 of them so far. Old 1.jpg Old 2.png
    From top row, left to right:
    1) Poland, 1755, Copper 3 Soldi = 1 Grosz, (August III)
    2) Corsica, 1764, Billon 4 Soldi (General Pasquale Paoli)
    3) Duchy of Lorraine, 1726 (or 1727), Billon 30 Deniers (Leopold I)
    4) Poland, 1767, Copper 1 Grosz (Stanislaus Augustus, "SAR" monogram)
    5) Venice, Crete Colony (Kingdom of Candia?), ~1610, Copper 1 Soldino (I can't find it in Krause, but here on Numista)
    6) Don't know (1633 date? 1/3 something?)
    7) Don't know, I'm curious about the six-spoked wheel counterstamp

    Any corrections or help with the unidentified ones would be much appreciated!
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  3. mrbadexample

    mrbadexample Well-Known Member

    7. Wiedenbruck 3 pfennig?


    It's not KM#38 but it's the right state I think.
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  4. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I think you're right on the city, thanks! The obverse has the inscription "M CIVI WIDEN" and the rest is wiped out by the counterstamp. It looks like KM#26 from my 1600s Krause guide, made from 1653-1693. The date is obscured by the blot from the stamp, though. Looks like there may be some varieties. Most of these in my guide don't even have pictures. Here's a similar one from 1634 with flowers around the III instead of ovals.
  5. mrbadexample

    mrbadexample Well-Known Member

    Nice haul. There's something familiar about number 6 too, but it eludes me for the moment.
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  6. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I think #6 has an orb with a cross on it containing the number 3, probably for 3
    pfenning from one of the German states. Here's a similar pattern from Silesia (not mine). I haven't been able to figure out the coat of arms on the other side. It looks like 3 shields, the top with a lion rampant, the lower left with a 4-legged animal I can't make out, and the lower right perhaps an eagle. Is there a good reference to do an image search for coats of arms for the German States.
  7. mrbadexample

    mrbadexample Well-Known Member

    If you ever use World of Coins, they've not failed me yet. Post decent images there if you can.
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