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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 1285219, member: 19463&quot;]You are right in that we will never agree.&nbsp; Simply punching them into shape would produce a different pattern of flatness than the rocking die theory.&nbsp; Striking twice or more with a hammer does not create double striking.&nbsp; That requires moving the die between strikes.&nbsp; I suspect many coins were struck multiple times but relatively few show doubling including some where it is obvious that the die was moved and replaced to correct a bad first strike.&nbsp; Controlling hammer bounce would have been no more difficult in the Byzantine period than in the 4th century when coins were thin or with the Sasanians when they were thinner.&nbsp; I have no idea when the dead blow hammer was invented and my comments only apply to the coins of the period of my examples (not Celtic, Hungarian or other cuppers).&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Most of all I will disagree with the theory that some guy who tries to make a coin and fails gains knowledge from his failure proving anything.&nbsp; The guys who did it every day in the Byzantine shops probably took more than one attempt to figure out how to make the things efficiently.&nbsp; Perhaps your modern minter did discover a way of making cupped coins but did he discover <i>the</i> way it was originally done?&nbsp; Yes, I will take the theory of the &#039;Ivory Tower Elite&#039; like Simon Bendall who based their theory on the study of thousands of coins before accepting the word of a historical recreator whose work I have not seen (got photos?).&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=71531.0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=71531.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=71531.0</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I did run across someone else who disagrees with the late Mr. Bendall on the manufacturing technique but I am unable to read the arguments (in Italian).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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