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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7652520, member: 19463"]This is where we will have to continue to disagree. I do not care who the fake seller is or where he comes from. I do not care how many genuine coins he has intermixed with the fakes. I would prefer that those genuine coins be sold wholesale after the fake seller has gone out of business or be reconsigned by their owners who, hopefully, will use a better auction next time. We are not condemning the coins; we are condemning the sale in which they appear. It is not like we are saying a resource is worthless because it does not flag or remove fakes found in their listings even when the auction house withdraws the lot. It is a valuable tool to be used with care and not a safe place to go for information by beginners. We must either know the coins, know the seller and also trust our sources for information. </p><p>All fakes; all the same fake:</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2733653" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2733653" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2733653</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5650131" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5650131" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5650131</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=159464" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=159464" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=159464</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2453102" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2453102" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2453102</a></p><p>Are there others to question on those pages? That is your decision.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do agree that it is unfortunate that the Katz thread was diluted by being left behind to become an 'all coins are fake' thread. It would have been better to start another thread if there is question about a different seller. The fact remains that we all would be better if those who set themselves up in business as dealers in ancient coins were both honest and capable. When we buy real coins from sellers who are not both honest and capable, we are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The genuine coins will survive; the fakesellers need not.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7652520, member: 19463"]This is where we will have to continue to disagree. I do not care who the fake seller is or where he comes from. I do not care how many genuine coins he has intermixed with the fakes. I would prefer that those genuine coins be sold wholesale after the fake seller has gone out of business or be reconsigned by their owners who, hopefully, will use a better auction next time. We are not condemning the coins; we are condemning the sale in which they appear. It is not like we are saying a resource is worthless because it does not flag or remove fakes found in their listings even when the auction house withdraws the lot. It is a valuable tool to be used with care and not a safe place to go for information by beginners. We must either know the coins, know the seller and also trust our sources for information. All fakes; all the same fake: [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2733653[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5650131[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=159464[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2453102[/URL] Are there others to question on those pages? That is your decision. I do agree that it is unfortunate that the Katz thread was diluted by being left behind to become an 'all coins are fake' thread. It would have been better to start another thread if there is question about a different seller. The fact remains that we all would be better if those who set themselves up in business as dealers in ancient coins were both honest and capable. When we buy real coins from sellers who are not both honest and capable, we are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The genuine coins will survive; the fakesellers need not.[/QUOTE]
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