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Message:: [QUOTE="74Teen, post: 1654466, member: 44241"]Wow. "You clearly don't know" is kind of harsh, perhaps short of a personal attack, but somewhat harsh none the less. I did say "no offense." I meant no disrespect to you. What is 'clear' in each person's eyes is what they see through their filters. I do know that metals oxidize. And I do know that it's possible to inhibit that process to a great extent. But sorry, to me, tarnish would keep any coin from being considered Mint State. I'm sure it's just semantics, and given, I'm a fairly recent retread to numismatics. If that is the accepted definition, I apologize heartily (and it seems to be, so I do). But, for my own collection, I'll avoid a tarnished coin every time, unless it's an absolute bargain. Personally, I prefer have one that looks like it may have been slapped down on the bar to buy friends a round a few times. I had the same discussion at my LCS today, and both myself and the proprietor seemed satisfied when we agreed to disagree and I left him in possession of some crisp, new bills as I walked out in possession of some new to me coins, including a delightful non-Mint State "low grade" Peace Dollar. Again, I meant no disrespect to either you or your coin. I have been lurking on the forum for a few months now, and have read dozens of threads about toned coins. I've also read dozens of your threads, and would not even consider questioning your knowledge or experience. Please accept my apologies.[/QUOTE]