Okay, is it just MY eyes? ("1928" Peace dollar)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by -jeffB, Apr 3, 2017.

  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Not on the top right.

    Maybe on the bottom left; the picture is too fuzzy to be sure.

    I've studied a lot of blurry photos of these coins, lit from a lot of different angles. I can't always tell from a photo, but on this one, I'm really quite sure about the coins on the top left (8), top right (3), and bottom right (8).
     
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  3. STU

    STU Active Member

    23 in the right top i would buy a slabbed one myself cant see the bottom left kind of out of focus
     
  4. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    top right is 23 all day long.
     
  5. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Not exactly as meaningless as you might think: If a seller is offering a bill of goods, he will often list it as no return. I know about the not-as-described rule. It's just part of sizing up the seller.
     
  6. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Doesn't really matter what they are. No one with any sense will bid. Why?

    1. "THERE ARE NO RETURNS OFFERED FOR THESE COINS. WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET!" Only someone with way too much money to waste would pay $1450 with this condition on the auction.

    2. Anyone asking that much money needs to provide far superior pictures.

    3. The seller has ZERO feedbacks as a seller.
     
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  7. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    I'll let Dexter Morgan know about this.
     
  8. orifdoc

    orifdoc Well-Known Member

    IIRC, there are three die pairs (maybe 4) for genuine 1928 coins. Each has a die marker that can be used to authenticate genuine coins. There are plenty of 1928-S coins floating around with the "S" removed. No way on earth I'd pay anything over melt for these without a return privilege. Garbage like this is the reason slabs and TPG companies were invented.

    The upper right coin is a 1923.
     
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  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    This is one of the most frequently faked date around. All it takes is a 1923 Peace Dollar, which is one of the most common, and a little bit of metal artfully glued in with crazy glue, or even soldered in. I have seen so many that are faked in this manner, and some are rather skillful. 1928 is a date that I do not recommend buying raw.
     
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  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Three that I know of. Is there a fourth?
     
  11. orifdoc

    orifdoc Well-Known Member

    I thought three as well, but earlier in the thread someone referenced 4. It's been a while since I looked it up.
     
  12. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Here are the four recorded obverses, with pickups illustrated:

    http://www.vamworld.com/1928-P+VAM-1
     
  13. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    There are three reverse dies. Mea Culpa.
     
  14. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    The upper left coin appears to be heavily photoshopped on the face to "smooth out" the hits as well.
     
  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Most of the seller's photos are blurred in the upper left. I don't think it's nefarious Photoshopping, I think it's grease smeared on the lens of the phone camera. :yack:
     
  16. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Actually, he does, but is buried in the "all feedback" section for whatever reason.
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm seeing half a dozen seller feedbacks for him in the last month, and over 2000 total. I wonder if you were experiencing an eBay glitch?
     
  18. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I certainly could be... but I checked the other day when the gentleman originally posted, and did so again before posting my response. Both times I've gotten nothing under seller feedback.

    That said, for whatever reason, I can't open any eBay links posted here to the mobile version of the site, and have to switch to "desktop" in order to do so, but am not sure why this would impact seeing feedback.
     
  19. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Huh. Here's what I see when I click on his [?] feedback:

    4-1928-peace-seller-fb.png
     
  20. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    100% on feedback only the one neutral, I just don't like the "no return" policy he put up.
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    As @rickmp observed, it won't help him when someone receives a 1923 that was sold as a 1928.

    I agree that a no-return policy is a red flag, especially on something at this level -- I can see it for a bullion lot, but not for high-numismatic-value stuff. I'm more offended that the seller denied the problem when I pointed it out. At this point, as far as I'm concerned, it's either intentional deception or a cognitive issue. Either way, not a seller I'm eager to deal with.
     
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