I have posted many times that albums are not a good way to store coins. Sure, they good in an album - but bad for the coins. Why ? First and foremost because you have to commit the cardinal sin of coin collecting just to get a coin into an album - touch the surface of the coin. How else do you push it down into the hole ? Second problem is the plastic slides - they can scratch the coin. Third problem is the coins are exposed to the air much more than almost any other storage method. And humidity, even if the album is archival material, it is still basically made of dry paper - and dry paper sucks up moisture like a sponge. Not good for coins ! Fourth problem - how do you minimize exposure to air and humidity ? Yeah I suppose you could keep them in a plastic bag, but pastic bags are not impervious to air or moisture. And once inside, it is trapped there. So IMO - any way you look at it, albums are not a good idea.
Even if you use gloves it's going to damage the surface? Maybe on a microscopic level but nothing a professional grader is going to tell any difference over under 5x magnification. So far I only use the slide on one side and try to keep the coins buried as deep as possible below it. I rarely and carefully move slides. Maybe they might damage the highest points or the rim on a microscopic level but I'm not putting proof coins in albums. I can't imagine, even for MS condition coins that these slides or cotton gloves are harsher than when they were bouncing around in mint bags with other coins. Which most have been through already. I don't believe these methods would do more damage than what has already been done on a microscopic level, to the point where it lowers the value. My opinion. I'm open to criticism on this. Humidity definitely is a concern. I keep mine at 20% where everything is. It's not zero but for summer around here, I can't do much better. You guys in the mountains are lucky. When I was in Loveland,CO I've never been so thirsty in all my life. 15% in July. lol
Yes, cotton gloves will hairline the surface. The point is that when you buy a coin any marks or hits that there then are there and there is nothing you can do about it. But any additional marks, hits, scratches or hairlines that you put on the coin after you own it just add to what is already there, and yes it will lower the grade and the value.
My personal opinion is that albums are fine for lower grade coins. Not sure I would do a MS set of anything in albums. That is just my personal opinion. At the same time I like airtites, but have not see a good way to organize them yet.
Lost I am in the thick of this debate with myself. I have an almost complete set of the Washington quarters (32-98) in a Dansco album with the proofs. I started this before I had the knowledge I do now. Should I take them out and put them in something else? Some of the coins have toned, and I removed them and put in 2x2 Intercepts. Ordered Eagle rigid album pages (20 per page) for the Intercepts which apparently fit, but someone said that the Intercepts get scratched in these? My coins likely toned due some storage mistakes on my part which are now rectified. I really like the look of the albums and am not happy to switch out. Also very concerned about getting proofs out as some got hairlined going in (due to inexperience), however, the older proofs (60's, 70's) look hazy in the album. Which way to go? Love the look of albums, but don't want my coins to unpredictably tone. Using ziplock (vaccumm sealed) and lots of dessicants. What to do. All coins are MS 60-65. Need advice!!! Don't even want to think about the Kennedy or other series of coins in Danscos.
my 2 cents get rid of the albums most of the forum wil disagree. be careful while taking them out you may damage the coins
......and do what with them? Submit all for grading? Air-tites? Tubes? Cardboard 2x2's? IS 2x2s? I think he may as well leave em in the album now. I recently bought a 1980 proof set, still in the mint's sealed case and some of the coins have haze on them. Especially the penny. You can only do so much. The stuff's got to be more enjoyable in the album. If there's some you really like and you want a perfect one, buy a slabbed one and stash it away. I'm buying MS franklin halves for my Intercept shield album. If I decided the only good method would be to stuff them in a plastic tube, then I'd only buy worn, beat up ones and throw them in with the rest. I hate card board 2x2s because of the staples. I don't keep anything in them. They're good for shipping. My belief is that some coins are meant for the tube. Some are meant for display in an album (to be seen). Really nice ones should be slabbed or in individual plastic 2x2s and stashed away, to be known about and rarely seen. Of course a slab is the best. At some point you have to enjoy the hobby, not worry about it and do what you want to do.
Wow rhoggman that sucks. What kind of album was this? An old Whitman maybe? I've always been partial to album-izing my coins. Over the years, however, I've learned (sometimes the hard way) that some albums are just no good for storing coins. When I was younger I had a few Library of Coins albums. The few uncs I had in there tarnished alarmingly quick, and not in a good way. I suppose the age of these albums had a lot to do with it. I use mostly Danscos now, which I like the look of. Some of the coins have been in there for years without changing (at least that I can see..). And as others have said, if I had a coin valued in the thousands, I'm sure it would stay in a slab, just to be sure.
If everyone stops using albums, what will I collect. I need people to continue to use albums for uncirculated coins so I can continue to have fresh album toned material to buy. Albums rule! Except intercept shield which stops toning. Don't use them or you will be left with bunch shiny white coins--what a shame.
No worries, I will buy the pretty one at a premium which will make up for the ones that went bad. You can still sell those on E-Bay. Get a real crappy camera and list them as rainbow toned beauties.
OK, let me ask you then - you are saying that since some damage has been done already that you may as well them alone and let even more damage be done ? I fail to see the logic in that. More damage is just more damage - how can that possibly be better than stopping the damage where it is ? Guys there are literally millions of coins stored in albums and they have been for decades. It is a simple fact that people do it because they like the album presentation. And that's what each collector has to decide for himself - which is more meaningful to him, to have a presentation look that he likes - or - to protect the coins from possible harm and maintain them as close as possible to being the same as the day they received the coins ? You answer that question, and you have the answer as to whether or not albums are right for you. The stuff's got to be more enjoyable in the album. If there's some you really like and you want a perfect one, buy a slabbed one and stash it away. I'm buying MS franklin halves for my Intercept shield album. If I decided the only good method would be to stuff them in a plastic tube, then I'd only buy worn, beat up ones and throw them in with the rest. I hate card board 2x2s because of the staples. I don't keep anything in them. They're good for shipping. My belief is that some coins are meant for the tube. Some are meant for display in an album (to be seen). Really nice ones should be slabbed or in individual plastic 2x2s and stashed away, to be known about and rarely seen. Of course a slab is the best. At some point you have to enjoy the hobby, not worry about it and do what you want to do.[/QUOTE]
What more can I do for this proof set? It's in a sealed plastic case from the mint. I would have to smash the case to get them out and then put them in something else that would have to be somehow better than what they're in now.
I guess it does boil down into what value coins you end up collecting since something like Statehood quarters are not rare-except for mint errors-and are not going to be a big loss if they tone. I have yet to see anyone store a very valuable coin in a direct insert album, in the days before slabs and airtites they used Kointains/flips, Capital Plastics or even the lowly 2x2 staple holders.
It looks fine at first glance but on closer inspection, some of the coins have a haze to them. Especially the penny. Barely noticeable on most of them.
Best option, take it to a coin show, sell it - buy another one, haze free, from another dealer. It may cost you a couple bucks extra but it will be worth it.