Ok, light strike or rub

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by jookey2003, Jan 22, 2014.

  1. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I suppose we can still learn new things no matter how long we have been at it. I have been a art glass and coin collector for right at 50 years and still trying to learn more as I go. It's much easier to learn now since the internet came along. back in the 60's and 70's all I had to learn from was a few books , magazines and mail from folks like Wexler and Weinberg .
     
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  3. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    A late stage die cap would not have the appearance that you see IMO. It warps and disturbs the design in a different fashion. Here is a struck through late stage die cap.

    1990 struck thru obv:rev.png
     
  4. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    non cents all late stage die caps are not alike at all . I have confidence in you . keep trying and you will learn more all the time as you get older. on the op's coin I don't think anyone knows for sure what it is and are just taking a guess. it would need to be examined in hand IMO
     
  5. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I never said they are all alike, however, I'm fairly certain that most struck-through late stage die caps show some form of distortion/warping. Just do a google image search of "struck through die cap" and you will see that on the majority of the late stage examples, they share a common appearance of distortion/warping of parts of the design.

    As bedford said, a struck through late-stage die cap would still disrupt pretty much the entirety of the coin (though the center might be sharper in comparison to the rest of the coin). I have not yet seen a struck-through die cap that has only affected the outer edge of a coin or otherwise closely resembles the Op's coin. Do you have a picture of one you could point me to?
     
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  6. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    non cents I'm thru with this thread and this is my last post on it. you are trying to rely on google too much .what you are missing is that a die cap can become stuck onto a die and every strike will remove a tiny amount of the soft material. when the die is starting to become clear and the die cap almost worn off the center of the die usually becomes clear first . whatever remains of the worn off die cap that is stuck to the die will sometimes look like struck thru grease and still affect the coins being struck.

    please note ; I'm just describing a worn out die cap and in no way talking about the op's coin in this thread.
     
  7. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    This may not help at all, but I found this 1980 cent, back in September, that was struck through a very late stage die cap. This pic is just for reference. I haven't seen enough struck through die caps or major struck through greasers to form an opinion. Hope this helps a little anyway.
     

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  8. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    That's fine, but can you provide an image link of a coin that resembles what you are describing? Just so I can understand.
     
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  9. jookey2003

    jookey2003 Active Member

    Ic ic, Im not sure if anyone has mentioned it or noticed but the obverse of the coin does have a spot between the w in we and trust making the e and t hard to see . Also it is dull not shiny like the rest of the face
     
  10. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I believe that in todays presses, the Obverse is the anvil and the Reverse is the hammer.
     
  11. jookey2003

    jookey2003 Active Member

    Ok now lets get to to the gritty of my nitty... how many begillions of dollars am I going to be worth? bah ha haha
     
  12. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    It's definitely defective. Maybe you could get a refund or exchange through the mint?;)

    Just for the record, my "... never seen anything like it" quote doesn't mean much. We don't even have one cent coins anymore. When we did, I never looked at them, except for the odd US cent that got mixed in as a result of cross border shopping.

    I'm also curious what someone would pay for such a find, $5, $10, $25 ...?

    Here is one that sold for $8.50 with no date... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lincoln-Cent-1C-NO-DATE-1982-2008-ANACS-MS62-RB-STRUCK-THROUGH-GREASE-Coin-0258-/201020749419?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item2ecdc5366b&nma=true&si=d2CyCtIqHNoiDzWVHsAKwXGzkkc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    ... and one for $24 with the date ...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-D-Lincoln-Cent-Formative-Years-Error-Struck-Thru-Grease-MS65-RED-ANACS-/271336772164?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f2cee9244&nma=true&si=d2CyCtIqHNoiDzWVHsAKwXGzkkc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    ... and here, someone is asking $200...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-D-Prof...11?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3389e9cf8f

    Asking and getting are two very different things.:)
     
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  13. jookey2003

    jookey2003 Active Member

    I figured as much, They are still neat to look at and I have to say I enjoyed this forum from start to finish.

    I also found this nickel in the same bunch of coins I figured it would be easy to overlook 2012 for this long but I was surprised that the nickel is a 1958 . It also not only feels way lighter but looks and sounds light if you drop it
     

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  14. mikediamond

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